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I'd fight for the right for 8chan to exist. Everyone deserves the right to be stupid, even if they're abusing it.
by xfitm3 6y ago
I'd fight for the right for 8chan to exist. Everyone deserves the right to be stupid, even if they're abusing it.
- BobbyJo 6y agoAn interesting counter point: the marginal cost of stupidity rises with the technological advancement of society.
- tomp 6y agoDoes it? Do you have any data to support that? I thought about what you said, and immediately connected it with several other claims of things that also rise with tech advancement... marginal impact of weapons, medicine, intelligence, entrepreneurship/luck, sports, games, entertainment, communications... So if the marginal impact of everything rises, then maybe that’s just the way of technology? It increases leverage. But then in relative terms, all those things still have the same impact? Or maybe the ratios between them change (e.g. weapons/nukes became more more powerful than communications)? Or maybe there’s other areas that massively reduced in marginal impact (e.g. production of food)...
- SubiculumCode 6y agoThere is an idea out there that it is always easier to destroy than it is to create or maintain order. As technology progresses, the power to destroy, create, or maintain increases, but do they increase at the same rate? It very well may be that the power to destroy has vastly outgrown are ability to create or maintain. Case in point, our nuclear bombs could kill most of us within the hour, yet science is barely learning how to stop the great killer, aging. Will we get to a point where any individual can order a few parts and kill millions? It seems inevitable if we continue along our current trajectory. Agreat Scifi book that explores these questions is Rainbows end [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End
- tobmlt 6y agoAt this level of approximation, so to rises the wealth of society to afford such stupidity.
- BobbyJo 6y agoIt costs more to undo damage than it does to create it, so if they grow at the same rate you still fall behind.
- studius 6y agoas someone's finger hovers over a button in US, UK, Russia, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel or North Korea...
- pessimizer 6y agoI miss when we justified censorship with the fact that children might see something. At least that actually happened instead of being a fantasy.
- studius 6y ago> I miss when we justified censorship with the fact that children might see something. At least that actually happened instead of being a fantasy. So, you're saying: "At least a nuke went off?" or that a nuke going off is a fantasy? You know that plenty have gone off, and a few killed a lot of people, right? I don't have any big problem with nuclear power, but I don't want to see a nuke go off.
- bccdee 6y ago"If people have the freedom to share bad ideas, surely that is a slippery slope to having the freedom to kill people with nuclear bombs" is a fantasy.
- xfitm3 6y agoGeorge Carlin, whom I highly respect, has a fantastic bit on "saving the children". It's more like a child fetish and it isn't healthy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIlv17AwgIU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIlv17AwgIU
- user-the-name 6y agoThe radicalisation directly driven by 8chan, in particular, has led to a large number of people being shot. Dead. There are dead people, because 8chan was allowed to exist. That is not something that you should be fighting for. You are not fighting for any greater good there. You are promoting something that leads to actual, real people dying.
- wolco2 6y agoAs does cop shows and popular media and video games. Where do you draw your line?
- theknocker 6y agoThat's cool how enlightened hipsters all over the internet are starting to see the wisdom in neocon interventionalist philosophy from two decades ago.
- corndoge 6y agoYou need a stronger justification to censor people other than that they might say something that causes weak minded people to do harm.
- koonsolo 6y agoYou want to ban everything that leads to deaths? What about the bible and koran? I'm sure the stats on those just dwarf those from 8chan.
- seanclayton 6y agoThe warmongering driven by the New York Times regarding weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, in particular, has led to a large number of people being blown up. Dead. There are dead people, because the New York Times was allowed to exist. That is not something that you should be fighting for. You are not fighting for any greater good there. You are promoting something that leads to actual, real people dying.
- r00fus 6y agoI don’t think the NYT is any bastion of the free press. They are far too corrupt. I’d be happy if both NYT and 8chan didn’t exist.