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I've never seen these studies claiming anxious people tend to be immoral in their behaviors at work. Do you have a link? My personal intuition is that "grandios

by enkid 6y ago

I've never seen these studies claiming anxious people tend to be immoral in their behaviors at work. Do you have a link? My personal intuition is that "grandiose" and "anxious" people are quite distinct groups with very distinct behaviors.

ownagefool 6y ago
There's probably an overlap, i.e. your dickhead boss probably has a bunch of reasons being immoral is the greater good, lesser evil, or ends justifies the means. Of course, some people seem to just be dicks with nary a care in the world, but in my experience, most openly anxious folks are nice. They tend to be too anxious not to be. Personally, I guess I'm an anxious person _sometimes_ ( can panic attack but tend to forget about it if I don't think about it ) and it doesn't make me act dishonest or an asshole. Not even saying I've never been an asshole, but stabbing someone in the back just isn't my style and goes against my working class Scottish stoic upbringing. As does being openly anxious, it's not something I tell folks.
skim_milk 6y ago
>anxious people tend to be immoral in their behaviors at work I'm not claiming that >My personal intuition is that "grandiose" and "anxious" people are quite distinct groups with very distinct behaviors This is correct. But I was trying to refer to the link between grandiosity and depression when anxiety is the underlying cause (which I really didn't need to bring up in the original comment, don't know why I wrote that). I mainly had this book in mind when I was typing my comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Miller_(psychologist)#The_Drama_of_the_Gifted_Child_(Das_Drama_des_begabten_Kindes,_1979) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Miller_(psychologist)#Th... which was I guess the first book to link grandiosity and depression if you want to look into that.
rurban 6y ago
I have an anxious manager in my organization, and he is the best manager by far. No immoralities, a bit too much yes-saying, but also occasional no's. The anxiety could be treated fairly easily I heard, but he didn't do it so far. Narcissists are the problematic ones, not anxious ones.

by enkid 6y ago

ownagefool 6y ago

There's probably an overlap, i.e. your dickhead boss probably has a bunch of reasons being immoral is the greater good, lesser evil, or ends justifies the means. Of course, some people seem to just be dicks with nary a care in the world, but in my experience, most openly anxious folks are nice. They tend to be too anxious not to be. Personally, I guess I'm an anxious person _sometimes_ ( can panic attack but tend to forget about it if I don't think about it ) and it doesn't make me act dishonest or an asshole. Not even saying I've never been an asshole, but stabbing someone in the back just isn't my style and goes against my working class Scottish stoic upbringing. As does being openly anxious, it's not something I tell folks.

skim_milk 6y ago

>anxious people tend to be immoral in their behaviors at work I'm not claiming that >My personal intuition is that "grandiose" and "anxious" people are quite distinct groups with very distinct behaviors This is correct. But I was trying to refer to the link between grandiosity and depression when anxiety is the underlying cause (which I really didn't need to bring up in the original comment, don't know why I wrote that). I mainly had this book in mind when I was typing my comment https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Miller_(psychologist)#The_Drama_of_the_Gifted_Child_(Das_Drama_des_begabten_Kindes,_1979) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Miller_(psychologist)#Th... which was I guess the first book to link grandiosity and depression if you want to look into that.

rurban 6y ago

I have an anxious manager in my organization, and he is the best manager by far. No immoralities, a bit too much yes-saying, but also occasional no's. The anxiety could be treated fairly easily I heard, but he didn't do it so far. Narcissists are the problematic ones, not anxious ones.