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> I would argue it is you who are falling for black-and-white thinking that all trust is bad and that currency should be trustless. I think our differences boi
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> I would argue it is you who are falling for black-and-white thinking that all trust is bad and that currency should be trustless.
I think our differences boil down to one thing: I don't share the belief than trust is better than trustless. Actually, I believe the opposite is true in most situations, because trustless allows abstractions in a simple manner.
For handling exceptions (ex: ETH DAO), we can revert to trust mechanism, but most of the time, we're better off without.
> > Actually, at the bare minimum, it removes political control of the monetary supply, leaving only fiscal policy, which may enable better long term control of public deficit by implementing a Milton Friedman like rule (whether it's constant inflation, deflation, or nothing, all is good as long as it remains constant and predictable)
> I don't agree with any of that. I don't want any of that.
Yet I don't think you are an economist, so I'm afraid your wants are biased. Most people don't want to wait - they want to break open the cookie jar. They want to eat the seed corn.
It's a human bias, with an economic name: the time discount factor, which has been researched in how it leads to substandard outcomes (ex: not saving for your own retirement)
At the society level, 401k and the like is a way of removing trust in your saving ability: the decision is taken for you in advance.
Of course, there are exceptions (ex: you're out of work or sick and need the money now), but that's when the "exception" of trust comes in handy.
> > To be clear I think all narcotics should be legal. It is the narcos who create the harm. I'm 100% pro dugs and 100% against allowing narcos to thrive.
I 100% agree, but yet I think it's better for me not to have vodka and cocaine at home - because if I'm extremely tired but can't sleep, I could be tempted to take the former, then if I have to fly somewhere and it's important I'd be tempted to take the latter the morning after.
So I don't buy any - another way of favoring a trustless system. If I want booze, I go to a bar as needed.
Crypto can offers many features like that, and I believe a smart contract that would automatically save to your retirement account (while exactly equivalent to a 401k on paper) would be better, by sheer virtue of removing the needed trust in the government: I could see a government plundering retirement accounts in a grand announcement of a more redistributive retirement made available to everybody past some given age.
- arcticbull 6y agoMost people pretend the DAO never happened because the DAO is a terrible example. All it shows is if the big powerful players get screwed they can just change the rules whenever they want. If grandma gets screwed out of her life savings it’s SFYL It’s trustless for me and none for thee. Seriously. It destroyed the whole narrative. If tustlessness was any better intrinsically vitalik would be on eth classic today. The smart contract worked as designed. Code is law is it not? How dare you tell me that vitaliks magic bean jar is more important thank my grandmas? :) is what’s good for the goose not good for the gander? There’s a reason we moved past strict majority rule and added checks for the rights of the powerless or minority. The difference between us is you’re ignoring the edge cases and I’m saying when livelihood is at stake basic function is table stakes edge cases are effectively the only thing that matters. I’m applying medical rigor and you’re applying My First JavaScript React Native app in the App Store - we can just patch it later whatever. Or this now-poor bastard: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/k7cnrn/butter_loses_1m_in_crypto_smart_contract_defi/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/k7cnrn/butter_los... > I 100% agree, but yet I think it's better for me not to have vodka and cocaine at home - because if I'm extremely tired but can't sleep, I could be tempted to take the former, then if I have to fly somewhere and it's important I'd be tempted to take the latter the morning after. Look up the Portuguese model that’s not what happens, evidence tells us. Anyone who wants drugs now can get them, and legalization doesn’t make people who don’t want drugs want them. We have laws that people tend to follow like not flying impaired.