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The root evil here is that you can't change the root certificates in such devices. Even if you controlled its DNS, the device could still just be programmed to
by t0astbread 6y ago
The root evil here is that you can't change the root certificates in such devices. Even if you controlled its DNS, the device could still just be programmed to fail if it doesn't reach its analytics/ad/whatever server.
- GekkePrutser 6y agoThe Amazon Fire TV does this already :( If it doesn't see internet it just blocks itself and goes to a screen "Oops I have no internet". So you can forget about watching movies from your local server using the VLC app as well. Ridiculous.
- moonbug 6y agomakes it utterly useless in an IPv6+NAT64 environment, incidentally.
- tguvot 6y agoYou can go to settings > installed application and lunch VLC or anything else directly from there
- GekkePrutser 6y agoI'm pretty sure the last time my internet was down I couldn't get into anything but the wifi settings. But I'll try it next time, thanks for the tip!
- tguvot 6y agoYou can go back from network settings back to settings or something like this. just poke around. Discovered it when comcast went down for 4 days and wanted to run kodi on firetv
- hda2 6y agoAmazon also tends to hide options until you "try" connecting to your network. My device refused to work without internet until I "tried" connecting to my network using an incorrect password. When I did that and the device failed, an option to skip network setup appeared. In small font at the bottom of the screen, of course.
- mstade 6y agoThe IKEA Tradfri "smart" lighting gateway will stop responding to commands if it can't phone home to some IKEA server. I noticed this when I changed my router to use NextDNS, which blocked the IKEA lookups. I was ready to return the device as broken until I realized this. I've also had issues with Bang & Olufsen speakers in the past, and inclined to believe it's for the same reasons. I think it's insane that devices can effectively be bricked if they can't phone home. It's nothing short of waste, and I think environmental legislation should require device manufacturers to supply ways of disabling or overriding these mechanisms such that devices can continue to operate regardless of whether home servers are blocked or otherwise out of reach, e.g. company goes belly up, censorship etc.
- benttoothpaste 6y ago> I was ready to return the device as broken until I realized this. Actually you probably should return such devices as broken.
- mstade 6y agoI’m inclined to agree, frankly.
- m463 6y agoI did just that with a DJI Mavic. It was kind of hard to send back a really nice device that I had just opened up and was ready to fly. Thing is, some companies just use it as a way to fire their customers.
- CamperBob2 6y agoI tend to cut DJI a break, because customer (non-)compliance with no-fly zones is a class-1 existential threat to their business selling consumer drones. Pinging DJI servers to check for altitude restrictions at every power-up cycle is intrusive, but I honestly don't see that they have much choice. However, they are also playing these sorts of games with other types of devices, where no such justifications exist ( https://www.eevblog.com/forum/eevblab/eevblab-83-dji-pocket-2-camera-registration-bullshit/msg3351256/#msg3351256 https://www.eevblog.com/forum/eevblab/eevblab-83-dji-pocket-... ) That needs to be answered by returning the product as defective.
- throwaway201103 6y agoThen you return the device as defective and demand a refund. What you chose to pay for is up to you.