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While I will not dive into the extremes here, this is yet another battle in the fight over language, right? The most important point of criticism seems to be th

While I will not dive into the extremes here, this is yet another battle in the fight over language, right? The most important point of criticism seems to be that the language models are "unethical", i.e., not subject to control by a particular political standard. Am I the only one that finds this line of argumentation highly troubling? The idea that once you do something with language there should be someone proactively controlling you? Should it not always be the output that will be judged by the public?

lallysingh 6y ago
Funny to equate ethics and politics...
- free_rms 6y ago
  One way to define politics is "difference of opinion over ethics".
thu2111 6y ago
You're not the only one. What we're seeing here is a simple problem spilling out into the public: a lot of AI research is being done at a small number of companies that are in turn dominated by a tiny minority of people with politically extreme views. Those people consider control of language and expression very important to achieve their goals of a racialist and gender-biased society. But they're building AIs which require training on huge language corpuses, and thus inherently learn the way people writing language actually think. Meanwhile the techniques to do "mind control" of AI aren't that good, at least not yet, so this leads to a lot of tensions when AI learns something true but unacceptable to the woke mindset.
CydeWeys 6y ago
I don't agree with this characterization at all. This seems to be a much deeper battle about much more serious potential issues with AI. It's not just about language choice. One of the examples cited in the linked article is how facial recognition wasn't trained on as many examples of lower-albedo people and thus gave more false matches for them, thus potentially leading to false arrests for crimes they didn't commit. This is about a lot more than just language.

lallysingh 6y ago

Funny to equate ethics and politics...

free_rms 6y ago
One way to define politics is "difference of opinion over ethics".

thu2111 6y ago

You're not the only one. What we're seeing here is a simple problem spilling out into the public: a lot of AI research is being done at a small number of companies that are in turn dominated by a tiny minority of people with politically extreme views. Those people consider control of language and expression very important to achieve their goals of a racialist and gender-biased society. But they're building AIs which require training on huge language corpuses, and thus inherently learn the way people writing language actually think. Meanwhile the techniques to do "mind control" of AI aren't that good, at least not yet, so this leads to a lot of tensions when AI learns something true but unacceptable to the woke mindset.

CydeWeys 6y ago

I don't agree with this characterization at all. This seems to be a much deeper battle about much more serious potential issues with AI. It's not just about language choice. One of the examples cited in the linked article is how facial recognition wasn't trained on as many examples of lower-albedo people and thus gave more false matches for them, thus potentially leading to false arrests for crimes they didn't commit. This is about a lot more than just language.