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What do you mean by "on-time performance"? I lived for 6 months in Manhattan on 112th and it worked fine. Probably one or two times my station was closed in th

What do you mean by "on-time performance"? I lived for 6 months in Manhattan on 112th and it worked fine. Probably one or two times my station was closed in the morning and I had to walk down to the next one. And as someone who lived in Moscow for a long time I can attest it is the gold standard. It's the second busiest (or top-3) and just always works as scheduled. One rare thing one could rely on that comes from the government.

untog 6y ago
Info from the MTA here: https://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/new-full-year-data-shows-subway-hitting-6-year-annual-high-weekday-time-0 https://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/new-full-year... I regret to inform you that the NYC subway has many more problems than you experienced. Before the pandemic I traveled between Brooklyn and Manhattan and problems were common. Much more common was just random slowdowns, sitting between stations, etc. that makes it a lot more difficult to know when you'll arrive at your destination.
- buybackoff 6y ago
  I'm not sure, but it looks that OTP is much stricter measure than what I meant. I was talking about: I want to change from line A to B on station X (or exit on the station X)... Station X is closed, and I learn about that on station (X-1), or even just by not stopping on the station X. It happened in Paris more than "extraordinary" number of times, so I have to put extra 15 mins to every important travel. OTP sounds like: the train is scheduled at 3:25, it arrives at 3.26. Correct me if I'm wrong here. But if the normal margin is 5 mins for total time of travel, making it 15 mins is not nice.
NikolaeVarius 6y ago
The NYC Subway has a timetable, except no one gives a shit because it has very little relation to real life.
- toxik 6y ago
  That’s pretty strange though, I don’t think I’ve seen a subway with a time table before. It’s too frequent for it to matter in the first place, you just need to know when the next train towards your destination is coming!
  - NikolaeVarius 6y ago
    Available at https://new.mta.info/schedules https://new.mta.info/schedules If you dont have one, how do you measure performance of the system?
    - bobthepanda 6y ago
      Various approaches. One could make the argument that a train showing up ten minutes late vs one on time doesn't really matter to a person so long as it shows up within a reasonable time of them getting to the station and it still takes them to their destination on time. If the headways are five minutes and every single train is running at the same speed just five minutes late, this is a distinction that doesn't matter to the passenger.
  - bobthepanda 6y ago
    It has a timetable primarily because - due to all the merging in and out throughout the system, trains need to be in the right place at the right time or merging delays will cascade throughout the system - for purposes of employee scheduling, you need to make sure that the right employees are in the right place at the right time; generally a train leaving a terminal is being driven by a crew that had to come in from somewhere else.
    - nerdponx 6y ago
      It's also still useful as a general approximation for "how long should I expect to wait for the next train". Same with the bus lines.
      - 6y ago

untog 6y ago

Info from the MTA here: https://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/new-full-year-data-shows-subway-hitting-6-year-annual-high-weekday-time-0 https://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/new-full-year... I regret to inform you that the NYC subway has many more problems than you experienced. Before the pandemic I traveled between Brooklyn and Manhattan and problems were common. Much more common was just random slowdowns, sitting between stations, etc. that makes it a lot more difficult to know when you'll arrive at your destination.

buybackoff 6y ago
I'm not sure, but it looks that OTP is much stricter measure than what I meant. I was talking about: I want to change from line A to B on station X (or exit on the station X)... Station X is closed, and I learn about that on station (X-1), or even just by not stopping on the station X. It happened in Paris more than "extraordinary" number of times, so I have to put extra 15 mins to every important travel. OTP sounds like: the train is scheduled at 3:25, it arrives at 3.26. Correct me if I'm wrong here. But if the normal margin is 5 mins for total time of travel, making it 15 mins is not nice.

NikolaeVarius 6y ago

The NYC Subway has a timetable, except no one gives a shit because it has very little relation to real life.

toxik 6y ago
That’s pretty strange though, I don’t think I’ve seen a subway with a time table before. It’s too frequent for it to matter in the first place, you just need to know when the next train towards your destination is coming!
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  Available at https://new.mta.info/schedules https://new.mta.info/schedules If you dont have one, how do you measure performance of the system?
  - bobthepanda 6y ago
    Various approaches. One could make the argument that a train showing up ten minutes late vs one on time doesn't really matter to a person so long as it shows up within a reasonable time of them getting to the station and it still takes them to their destination on time. If the headways are five minutes and every single train is running at the same speed just five minutes late, this is a distinction that doesn't matter to the passenger.
- bobthepanda 6y ago
  It has a timetable primarily because - due to all the merging in and out throughout the system, trains need to be in the right place at the right time or merging delays will cascade throughout the system - for purposes of employee scheduling, you need to make sure that the right employees are in the right place at the right time; generally a train leaving a terminal is being driven by a crew that had to come in from somewhere else.
  - nerdponx 6y ago
    It's also still useful as a general approximation for "how long should I expect to wait for the next train". Same with the bus lines.
    - 6y ago