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That's exactly what a lot of companies do when someone gives 2 weeks notice. Send them home right away and pay them for the 2 weeks so you can keep them from fi

That's exactly what a lot of companies do when someone gives 2 weeks notice. Send them home right away and pay them for the 2 weeks so you can keep them from filing unemployment and have them on the hook for any exit interview / handoff questions etc. They always want you to sign "something" as part of the process, too.

whimsicalism 6y ago
Yes, I'm aware of how FB&Google work. > when someone gives 2 weeks notice. But she didn't give 2 weeks notice. This seems to be the key detail.
- harrisonjackson 6y ago
  Definitely! The terms of her resignation are unclear. If you give an employer an ultimatum and they don't want to give in to your demands then is that giving notice or quitting on the spot or something else? Should her managers/google legal have waited for her to tell them when exactly she was going to leave?
  - whimsicalism 6y ago
    > Should her managers/google legal have waited for her to tell them when exactly she was going to leave? Yes, if they wanted her to resign they should have waited for her to resign rather than fire her. If they fired her, seems odd to call it a resignation.
    - harrisonjackson 6y ago
      > Timnit wrote that if we didn’t meet these demands, she would leave Google and work on an end date. We accept and respect her decision to resign from Google. As an employee, I agree, it is twisted to call it a resignation. As an employer, of course that's exactly what they'd do with any employee who says "I quit, I'll tell you exactly when" and then proceeds to blast out a disruptive email.
      - stickfigure 6y ago
        This seems to fit neatly under "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
athms 6y ago
>you can keep them from filing unemployment You cannot file for unemployment aid if you resign or are terminated for cause. You can only get assistance if your termination is the result of your position being eliminated, otherwise known as a reduction in force. This is valid in California and I believe true in every other state in the US.
- harrisonjackson 6y ago
  Employees file for unemployment all the time when they may or may not be eligible. There is a whole appeal process which takes a look at who is really the "moving party" when an employee leaves. > Frequently after notice of a quit, layoff, or discharge has been given, either the claimant or the employer will act to accelerate the separation. Such action can alter the character of the separation. https://www.edd.ca.gov/uibdg/Voluntary_Quit_VQ_135.htm https://www.edd.ca.gov/uibdg/Voluntary_Quit_VQ_135.htm I don't really think unemployment is relevant in this case. I am interested in whether she technically quit or resigned though.

whimsicalism 6y ago

Yes, I'm aware of how FB&Google work. > when someone gives 2 weeks notice. But she didn't give 2 weeks notice. This seems to be the key detail.

harrisonjackson 6y ago
Definitely! The terms of her resignation are unclear. If you give an employer an ultimatum and they don't want to give in to your demands then is that giving notice or quitting on the spot or something else? Should her managers/google legal have waited for her to tell them when exactly she was going to leave?
- whimsicalism 6y ago
  > Should her managers/google legal have waited for her to tell them when exactly she was going to leave? Yes, if they wanted her to resign they should have waited for her to resign rather than fire her. If they fired her, seems odd to call it a resignation.
  - harrisonjackson 6y ago
    > Timnit wrote that if we didn’t meet these demands, she would leave Google and work on an end date. We accept and respect her decision to resign from Google. As an employee, I agree, it is twisted to call it a resignation. As an employer, of course that's exactly what they'd do with any employee who says "I quit, I'll tell you exactly when" and then proceeds to blast out a disruptive email.
    - stickfigure 6y ago
      This seems to fit neatly under "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

athms 6y ago

>you can keep them from filing unemployment You cannot file for unemployment aid if you resign or are terminated for cause. You can only get assistance if your termination is the result of your position being eliminated, otherwise known as a reduction in force. This is valid in California and I believe true in every other state in the US.

harrisonjackson 6y ago
Employees file for unemployment all the time when they may or may not be eligible. There is a whole appeal process which takes a look at who is really the "moving party" when an employee leaves. > Frequently after notice of a quit, layoff, or discharge has been given, either the claimant or the employer will act to accelerate the separation. Such action can alter the character of the separation. https://www.edd.ca.gov/uibdg/Voluntary_Quit_VQ_135.htm https://www.edd.ca.gov/uibdg/Voluntary_Quit_VQ_135.htm I don't really think unemployment is relevant in this case. I am interested in whether she technically quit or resigned though.