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You are complaining about public transportation in the Île-de-France region. Think about that for a second. Few regions have such an extensive network of public

You are complaining about public transportation in the Île-de-France region. Think about that for a second. Few regions have such an extensive network of public transport options.

hcurtiss 6y ago
I think he’s saying it still sucks.
- angry_octet 6y ago
  It sucks, but it is still amazing compared to non-EU. At the moment, it costs a lot more inconvenience+money to use SNCF/RER than driving for many people.
  - Ygg2 6y ago
    That just makes it tolerable. If someone stabs you in the kidney, and someone stabs you in kidney and chest. You don't thank the former.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    You should get to know EU cities outside tourism capitals, it sucks just as well.
    - angry_octet 6y ago
      No, I believe you that it sucks. But probably not as hard as, e.g. Florida.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        I bet they would be quite similar actually. Plenty of areas you can only move either with own car or calling taxi. The next bus stop is a couple of kilometres down the road and only crosses a couple of times per day.
Ygg2 6y ago
Yeah. How dare they demand short commute in human conditions.
wazoox 6y ago
For instance in Vienna (Austria) you can park your car cheaply a few miles away from the centre in large car parks and go easily and quickly to the inner city by tram. There isn't anything remotely similar in Paris. There are underground parking spaces but far from the necessary scale. Plus they are extremely expensive (4€/hour is common). Public transports are extensive, but they're overcrowded and perpetually strained to the limit of breakage. This week, a 400 tons concrete beam fell on RER C tracks. I suppose it will be weeks before it runs normally again. This sort of problems happens constantly. Paris resident are only about 30% to own a car (a constantly dwindling number). Most cars in Paris come from the suburbs, therefore making motorists miserable isn't a problem for the mayor as most motorists vote elsewhere. This has the very unfortunate effect that nobody is really interested in solving the problem at its root.
ekianjo 6y ago
> You are complaining about public transportation in the Île-de-France region. Think about that for a second. Few regions have such an extensive network of public transport options. Yes, and it still sucks. Now imagine how much it sucks in other regions.

You are complaining about public transportation in the Île-de-France region. Think about that for a second. Few regions have such an extensive network of public transport options.

hcurtiss 6y ago

I think he’s saying it still sucks.

angry_octet 6y ago
It sucks, but it is still amazing compared to non-EU. At the moment, it costs a lot more inconvenience+money to use SNCF/RER than driving for many people.
- Ygg2 6y ago
  That just makes it tolerable. If someone stabs you in the kidney, and someone stabs you in kidney and chest. You don't thank the former.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  You should get to know EU cities outside tourism capitals, it sucks just as well.
  - angry_octet 6y ago
    No, I believe you that it sucks. But probably not as hard as, e.g. Florida.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      I bet they would be quite similar actually. Plenty of areas you can only move either with own car or calling taxi. The next bus stop is a couple of kilometres down the road and only crosses a couple of times per day.

Ygg2 6y ago

Yeah. How dare they demand short commute in human conditions.

wazoox 6y ago

For instance in Vienna (Austria) you can park your car cheaply a few miles away from the centre in large car parks and go easily and quickly to the inner city by tram. There isn't anything remotely similar in Paris. There are underground parking spaces but far from the necessary scale. Plus they are extremely expensive (4€/hour is common). Public transports are extensive, but they're overcrowded and perpetually strained to the limit of breakage. This week, a 400 tons concrete beam fell on RER C tracks. I suppose it will be weeks before it runs normally again. This sort of problems happens constantly. Paris resident are only about 30% to own a car (a constantly dwindling number). Most cars in Paris come from the suburbs, therefore making motorists miserable isn't a problem for the mayor as most motorists vote elsewhere. This has the very unfortunate effect that nobody is really interested in solving the problem at its root.

ekianjo 6y ago

> You are complaining about public transportation in the Île-de-France region. Think about that for a second. Few regions have such an extensive network of public transport options. Yes, and it still sucks. Now imagine how much it sucks in other regions.