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I am not convinced by the value System76 adds. I love the idea of no intel me, not that is relevant here, and openboot etc. But the quality of their hardware (a

I am not convinced by the value System76 adds. I love the idea of no intel me, not that is relevant here, and openboot etc. But the quality of their hardware (and OS) is just really not where it should be to justify the prices.

acomjean 6y ago
I’m a system76 customer. The basic value is it’s a Linux laptop that has the least amount of time involved with me trying to get it to work with this hardware or that. I can deal with installing software on Linux, it’s mucking with device drivers I don’t want to deal with. I’ll pay extra for this. I’ve been happy with it. It updates the os frequently (I’m using their popOS) with no issues.
- holstvoogd 6y ago
  Yeah, I might have had unrealistic expectations when i bought the darter last year. I was just immediately disappointed with the flimsy plastics, tiny plastic touch pad and excessively bright rgb keyboard. Given that it is not that cheap, especially after importing it to the EU. From my perspective, I’ve paid 1700€ for a meh laptop with a crappy display and worse sound. That is mac book money.. Edit: and to be fair, it did just work out of the box and boots quick af!
  - cyrialize 6y ago
    Next time you are looking for a linux laptop you should try to look into EU linux laptop companies. Many fans of S76 recommend doing that instead since importing is so expensive. I know a lot of people recommend TUXEDO Computers: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/
- cyrialize 6y ago
  This is pretty much the reason why I've been looking into S76. I want to game on my laptop too and it's nice knowing that S76 provides laptops that can game right away without any configuration needed. Many other gaming laptops I've looked at required a bunch of changes up front in order to work correctly on Linux - even then you may still run into issues. With S76 you know that you're getting a machine that will work with Linux 100%.
- ajb 6y ago
  This. Currently I'm stuck on a 4-series kernel because something about my laptop crashes later ones. I wish more laptop sellers tested linux, or shipped with it. System76 only ship US keyboards, which is a bit annoying, although I guess I could live with one.
- symlinkk 6y ago
  But Dell and Lenovo also offer laptops certified to work with Linux, that have Ubuntu or Fedora preinstalled.
  - acomjean 6y ago
    true. When I bought Lenovo didn't offer and Dell it was only a couple models of XPS laptops (the website wasn't super clear). Dell seem to have made a better effort at showcasing linux offerings and its great that Lenovo is in the game.

acomjean 6y ago

I’m a system76 customer. The basic value is it’s a Linux laptop that has the least amount of time involved with me trying to get it to work with this hardware or that. I can deal with installing software on Linux, it’s mucking with device drivers I don’t want to deal with. I’ll pay extra for this. I’ve been happy with it. It updates the os frequently (I’m using their popOS) with no issues.

holstvoogd 6y ago
Yeah, I might have had unrealistic expectations when i bought the darter last year. I was just immediately disappointed with the flimsy plastics, tiny plastic touch pad and excessively bright rgb keyboard. Given that it is not that cheap, especially after importing it to the EU. From my perspective, I’ve paid 1700€ for a meh laptop with a crappy display and worse sound. That is mac book money.. Edit: and to be fair, it did just work out of the box and boots quick af!
- cyrialize 6y ago
  Next time you are looking for a linux laptop you should try to look into EU linux laptop companies. Many fans of S76 recommend doing that instead since importing is so expensive. I know a lot of people recommend TUXEDO Computers: https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/ https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/
cyrialize 6y ago
This is pretty much the reason why I've been looking into S76. I want to game on my laptop too and it's nice knowing that S76 provides laptops that can game right away without any configuration needed. Many other gaming laptops I've looked at required a bunch of changes up front in order to work correctly on Linux - even then you may still run into issues. With S76 you know that you're getting a machine that will work with Linux 100%.
ajb 6y ago
This. Currently I'm stuck on a 4-series kernel because something about my laptop crashes later ones. I wish more laptop sellers tested linux, or shipped with it. System76 only ship US keyboards, which is a bit annoying, although I guess I could live with one.
symlinkk 6y ago
But Dell and Lenovo also offer laptops certified to work with Linux, that have Ubuntu or Fedora preinstalled.
- acomjean 6y ago
  true. When I bought Lenovo didn't offer and Dell it was only a couple models of XPS laptops (the website wasn't super clear). Dell seem to have made a better effort at showcasing linux offerings and its great that Lenovo is in the game.