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> I literally did not. ... and you doubled down. Cancelling is cancelling, a new, vaguely defined phenomena some people even deny exists but is a word the essa

> I literally did not. ... and you doubled down. Cancelling is cancelling, a new, vaguely defined phenomena some people even deny exists but is a word the essay itself uses. Censorship is censorship, well-defined, milleniae old and nowhere near what I said. You can continue to argue this peripheral, distracting semantic point if you want but there's nothing more for me to say on this. > It is cherry picking only if you ignore opposing evidence. I am sure you can provide some? Given that there is nothing in the essay that acknowledges any similarity, I can point to that per se as demonstration of cherry-picking, since the Mongols, Turks, Huns, Alans were all horse-riding cultures that lived on extensive, flat land who were known to conduct raids on settled peoples, like the Dothraki. There. Met your ask.

watwut 6y ago
> e Mongols, Turks, Huns, Alans were all horse-riding cultures that lived on extensive, flat land who were known to conduct raids on settled peoples, like the Dothraki. There. Met your ask. But ... they did not wore the cloth similar to Dothraki. Their culture had the word for "thank you". Elite used colors and comfortable clothing. Their military tactic was much different, much more smarter and much more organized. They did not charged unorganized on horses in disordered formation either. The argument is not that horse-riding cultures on flat land who conduct raids don't exist. Argument is that those cultures are nothing like Dothraki, because if they would, they would die quick. Mongols, Turks, Huns, Alans were not Dothraki at all. > Cancelling is cancelling, a new, vaguely defined phenomena some people even deny exists but is a word the essay itself uses. Censorship is censorship, well-defined, milleniae old and nowhere near what I said. Cancelling is just a new word for non state censorhip. That is just how it is used pretty much everywhere.
- rendall 6y ago
  > But ... they did not wore the cloth similar to Dothraki. Your ask was how and whether Dothraki and these historical cultures were similar. My response was that they are all horse-riding cultures that live on plains/steppes and raid settled peoples. Further, I submit that this lack of acknowledgement of this fact on the author's part defacto demonstrates cherry-picking. Your response could be that you disagree that this is evidence of cherry-picking, but instead you... recap the article. All this is beside the point. I acknowledge that the Dothraki are not historically accurate. That is the motte. The bailey is that the Dothraki are demeaning stereotypes. That is my original point against which you argue. I grant the motte. It's the bailey that has yet to be demonstrated.

watwut 6y ago

> e Mongols, Turks, Huns, Alans were all horse-riding cultures that lived on extensive, flat land who were known to conduct raids on settled peoples, like the Dothraki. There. Met your ask. But ... they did not wore the cloth similar to Dothraki. Their culture had the word for "thank you". Elite used colors and comfortable clothing. Their military tactic was much different, much more smarter and much more organized. They did not charged unorganized on horses in disordered formation either. The argument is not that horse-riding cultures on flat land who conduct raids don't exist. Argument is that those cultures are nothing like Dothraki, because if they would, they would die quick. Mongols, Turks, Huns, Alans were not Dothraki at all. > Cancelling is cancelling, a new, vaguely defined phenomena some people even deny exists but is a word the essay itself uses. Censorship is censorship, well-defined, milleniae old and nowhere near what I said. Cancelling is just a new word for non state censorhip. That is just how it is used pretty much everywhere.

rendall 6y ago
> But ... they did not wore the cloth similar to Dothraki. Your ask was how and whether Dothraki and these historical cultures were similar. My response was that they are all horse-riding cultures that live on plains/steppes and raid settled peoples. Further, I submit that this lack of acknowledgement of this fact on the author's part defacto demonstrates cherry-picking. Your response could be that you disagree that this is evidence of cherry-picking, but instead you... recap the article. All this is beside the point. I acknowledge that the Dothraki are not historically accurate. That is the motte. The bailey is that the Dothraki are demeaning stereotypes. That is my original point against which you argue. I grant the motte. It's the bailey that has yet to be demonstrated.