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"See maturity is a vague term this is where the controversy lies because adults can be immature too" It is, but it is still legally clearly defined who is cons

"See maturity is a vague term this is where the controversy lies because adults can be immature too" It is, but it is still legally clearly defined who is consent and who is not, because of insanity etc. (the problems of this process is a seperate issue) "This is not a fact either. " It is a fact that usage went down with decriminalisation. The other part was a explanation. You are free to disagree with that explanation and offer your own. And the other part: murder and theft is directly hurting others. Drug taking is at most directly hurting yourself. But feel free to discuss your personal agenda of war on drugs with someone else.

Geminidog 6y ago
>It is a fact that usage went down with decriminalisation. Saying something doesn't make it a fact. You need to cite a source. >It is, but it is still legally clearly defined who is consent and who is not, because of insanity etc. (the problems of this process is a seperate issue) Durr. No. It's not clear. Many countries have legal definitions of adult but many countries also have treatment and government rehabilitation plans in place for adults who act "immature" this includes crime and drug use. It is not clear at what age range does a human suddenly deserve zero treatment and enforcement. >But feel free to discuss your personal agenda of war on drugs with someone else. Likely your personal clarity comes from the fact that you're a drug user yourself. You have a personal agenda. I have no agenda. If you want to shoot yourself with heroin and make it legal I honestly can care less. But what I came here to discuss is whether decriminalization is an effective deterrent or not. I may think it's right or wrong to implement something but I personally don't care whether it's implemented in actuality because it doesn't effect me personally at all. I am possibly the most unbiased person here because I have no foot in the game. If you don't have a personal agenda then I'm wrong. But tell me, do you use drugs yourself? Likely you do... >Drug taking is at most directly hurting yourself. This is my entire argument. We protect kids from hurting themselves because they are immature. The question is why can't we protect adults from hurting themselves because they are immature. That is the controversy.

Geminidog 6y ago

>It is a fact that usage went down with decriminalisation. Saying something doesn't make it a fact. You need to cite a source. >It is, but it is still legally clearly defined who is consent and who is not, because of insanity etc. (the problems of this process is a seperate issue) Durr. No. It's not clear. Many countries have legal definitions of adult but many countries also have treatment and government rehabilitation plans in place for adults who act "immature" this includes crime and drug use. It is not clear at what age range does a human suddenly deserve zero treatment and enforcement. >But feel free to discuss your personal agenda of war on drugs with someone else. Likely your personal clarity comes from the fact that you're a drug user yourself. You have a personal agenda. I have no agenda. If you want to shoot yourself with heroin and make it legal I honestly can care less. But what I came here to discuss is whether decriminalization is an effective deterrent or not. I may think it's right or wrong to implement something but I personally don't care whether it's implemented in actuality because it doesn't effect me personally at all. I am possibly the most unbiased person here because I have no foot in the game. If you don't have a personal agenda then I'm wrong. But tell me, do you use drugs yourself? Likely you do... >Drug taking is at most directly hurting yourself. This is my entire argument. We protect kids from hurting themselves because they are immature. The question is why can't we protect adults from hurting themselves because they are immature. That is the controversy.