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Among CPU geeks “Team Red” means AMD. If you’re talking about their GPU competition then “Team Green” is Nvidia, and if you’re talking about their CPU competiti

Among CPU geeks “Team Red” means AMD. If you’re talking about their GPU competition then “Team Green” is Nvidia, and if you’re talking about their CPU competition “Team Blue” is Intel (and in American politics, Team Red generally would refer to the Republicans). I can’t speak to the aesthetics of the Bull or the odd choice of the mammal best known in the West for spreading Covid to humans as the version mascot, but hey, it’s original.

eps 6y ago
I am in Europe and it's the first time ever I hear about bulls spreading Covid to humans.
- terhechte 6y ago
  Pangolin
  - DoingIsLearning 6y ago
    The pangolin as an intermediate host between bats and humans is a valid virologist theory, but as far as I am aware there is no physical evidence for these zoonotic jumps, is there?
    - InitialLastName 6y ago
      As far as I've been able to tell, the evidence for pangolins as the vector for Covid is somewhat circumstantial at the moment, based largely on their presence in the Wuhan wet market that has been implicated in early spread, a history of pangolins being found to carry and transmit various coronaviruses similar to Covid-19, and some specifically suspicious test results in pangolins from the market. Nothing specifically causative that I've seen (AFAIK, the link to the wet market as the source rather than an early transmission location isn't even well-established). I suspect that, given we're a year on from the initial transmission of the virus in humans, unless the Chinese government has more research they haven't made public, we'll likely never know the truth.
      - rsynnott 6y ago
        > AFAIK, the link to the wet market as the source rather than an early transmission location isn't even well-established My understanding is that there's really no evidence for it being the source at all; it's effectively a myth. It was an early super spreader, but there's no particular reason to think it was the _source_.
- Uehreka 6y ago
  I was referring to the Pangolin, which I had never heard of until 10 months ago. Mascot was probably the wrong word, but I don’t know what else to call the naming trend of “use an animal name that starts with the letter we want”.
  - dddw 6y ago
    Penguin? Most people will run Linux on it anyway
    - Uehreka 6y ago
      Oh believe me, you won’t be confusing a pangolin for a penguin anytime soon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin
    - naoru 6y ago
      That's not very precise of you.
  - eps 6y ago
    First time I hear about a pangolin-Covid connection too. As far as the animal angle of the Covid goes the only thing that I can think of, with effort, is the mink, because of Dutch culling them in bulk in recent weeks. Nothing else. Edit - looked it up. Ah, so that's about the Chinese market trading exotic wild animals that was the ground zero of the outbreak. Never remembered that it had pangolins in the mix and I doubt that very many people do.
    - ido 6y ago
      I thought it was a bat? Never heard of a pangolin wrt to covid either.
    - ChrisArchitect 6y ago
      pangolin unheard of until pandemic for sure but made it into household enough to be a starring feature in the South Park pandemic episode I noticed
- headmelted 6y ago
  The parent was talking about pangolins, although ironically there's data to show that bovines can also contract and transmit COVID-19. What a time to be alive! (or at the very least not yet dead in a pandemic!)
headmelted 6y ago
I have to say I cringe a bit when I see terms like this and it's oddly off-putting to me. It's a little like if you're shopping for a video game console or a phone and can't get a straight answer on anything due to children arguing over which brand's product they like better all over the internet. I get that it's just terminology but it's always struck me as odd that buyers would affiliate themselves so strongly with a brand in an open, competitive marketplace. At least between (for example) Android and iPhones there are objective differences that might matter to you in picking one or the other, but for internal components that fundamentally don't impact how the device works it seems odd to have such strong feelings about it. Surely all I care about as the consumer is if this laptop is objectively better for my use case than my other options in its price range?
- iameli 6y ago
  I hear these a lot but I've never heard someone self-identify as being on "Team Green" or whatever. They're just nicknames.
- badsectoracula 6y ago
  > At least between (for example) Android and iPhones there are objective differences that might matter to you in picking one or the other, but for internal components that fundamentally don't impact how the device works it seems odd to have such strong feelings about it. The choice between AMD and Nvidia has a strong impact on how your device will work - and that is beyond just performance.
- IanSanders 6y ago
  > I get that it's just terminology but it's always struck me as odd that buyers would affiliate themselves so strongly with a brand in an open, competitive marketplace. I feel the same way about politics
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- Xevi 6y ago
thefz 6y ago
> I can’t speak to the aesthetics of the Bull or the odd choice of the mammal best known in the West for spreading Covid to humans as the version mascot IIRC the Pangolin is already on their laptop lineup since a couple of years.
throwawayffffas 6y ago
The thing that confused me was saying no bull in at least two sentences, and having a huge bull in the middle of the picture.
- cestith 6y ago
  "No bull" in this case being short for "no bullshit" - no misleading, exaggeration, or lies. It's an idiom, possibly an American one but I'm not sure. They're using it here as a pun.
rsynnott 6y ago
> and in American politics, Team Red generally would refer to the Republicans Interestingly, this is surprisingly recent. In 20th century Democrats were usually (though not always) red, and Republicans blue, which would approximate UK usage (red for Labour, blue for Tories). Some TV network switched in the 90s, and it just caught on. Apparently 2000 was the first time it was done consistently.
- bradwood 6y ago
  Right. Red is normally for lefties... ("Red" being a reference to communism, I guess).
  - senkora 6y ago
    Wikipedia has a great article on all the different ways that color is used in politics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour
gshulegaard 6y ago
I believe that it's a reference to the colloquialism that references how matadors use red capes to fight bulls: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=seeing%20red https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=seeing%20red So Team Red -> Seeing Red -> Bull?
Lio 6y ago
Poor old pangolins. Personally I'd heard of them because they're so critically endangered with extinction. They seem like quite timid little creature. Hopefully their involvement in Covid transmission will encourage people to stop eating them or using them for bullshit folk medicine.

eps 6y ago

I am in Europe and it's the first time ever I hear about bulls spreading Covid to humans.

terhechte 6y ago
Pangolin
- DoingIsLearning 6y ago
  The pangolin as an intermediate host between bats and humans is a valid virologist theory, but as far as I am aware there is no physical evidence for these zoonotic jumps, is there?
  - InitialLastName 6y ago
    As far as I've been able to tell, the evidence for pangolins as the vector for Covid is somewhat circumstantial at the moment, based largely on their presence in the Wuhan wet market that has been implicated in early spread, a history of pangolins being found to carry and transmit various coronaviruses similar to Covid-19, and some specifically suspicious test results in pangolins from the market. Nothing specifically causative that I've seen (AFAIK, the link to the wet market as the source rather than an early transmission location isn't even well-established). I suspect that, given we're a year on from the initial transmission of the virus in humans, unless the Chinese government has more research they haven't made public, we'll likely never know the truth.
    - rsynnott 6y ago
      > AFAIK, the link to the wet market as the source rather than an early transmission location isn't even well-established My understanding is that there's really no evidence for it being the source at all; it's effectively a myth. It was an early super spreader, but there's no particular reason to think it was the _source_.
Uehreka 6y ago
I was referring to the Pangolin, which I had never heard of until 10 months ago. Mascot was probably the wrong word, but I don’t know what else to call the naming trend of “use an animal name that starts with the letter we want”.
- dddw 6y ago
  Penguin? Most people will run Linux on it anyway
  - Uehreka 6y ago
    Oh believe me, you won’t be confusing a pangolin for a penguin anytime soon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pangolin
  - naoru 6y ago
    That's not very precise of you.
- eps 6y ago
  First time I hear about a pangolin-Covid connection too. As far as the animal angle of the Covid goes the only thing that I can think of, with effort, is the mink, because of Dutch culling them in bulk in recent weeks. Nothing else. Edit - looked it up. Ah, so that's about the Chinese market trading exotic wild animals that was the ground zero of the outbreak. Never remembered that it had pangolins in the mix and I doubt that very many people do.
  - ido 6y ago
    I thought it was a bat? Never heard of a pangolin wrt to covid either.
  - ChrisArchitect 6y ago
    pangolin unheard of until pandemic for sure but made it into household enough to be a starring feature in the South Park pandemic episode I noticed
headmelted 6y ago
The parent was talking about pangolins, although ironically there's data to show that bovines can also contract and transmit COVID-19. What a time to be alive! (or at the very least not yet dead in a pandemic!)

headmelted 6y ago

I have to say I cringe a bit when I see terms like this and it's oddly off-putting to me. It's a little like if you're shopping for a video game console or a phone and can't get a straight answer on anything due to children arguing over which brand's product they like better all over the internet. I get that it's just terminology but it's always struck me as odd that buyers would affiliate themselves so strongly with a brand in an open, competitive marketplace. At least between (for example) Android and iPhones there are objective differences that might matter to you in picking one or the other, but for internal components that fundamentally don't impact how the device works it seems odd to have such strong feelings about it. Surely all I care about as the consumer is if this laptop is objectively better for my use case than my other options in its price range?

iameli 6y ago
I hear these a lot but I've never heard someone self-identify as being on "Team Green" or whatever. They're just nicknames.
badsectoracula 6y ago
> At least between (for example) Android and iPhones there are objective differences that might matter to you in picking one or the other, but for internal components that fundamentally don't impact how the device works it seems odd to have such strong feelings about it. The choice between AMD and Nvidia has a strong impact on how your device will work - and that is beyond just performance.
IanSanders 6y ago
> I get that it's just terminology but it's always struck me as odd that buyers would affiliate themselves so strongly with a brand in an open, competitive marketplace. I feel the same way about politics
- deleted 6y ago
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Xevi 6y ago

thefz 6y ago

> I can’t speak to the aesthetics of the Bull or the odd choice of the mammal best known in the West for spreading Covid to humans as the version mascot IIRC the Pangolin is already on their laptop lineup since a couple of years.

throwawayffffas 6y ago

The thing that confused me was saying no bull in at least two sentences, and having a huge bull in the middle of the picture.

cestith 6y ago
"No bull" in this case being short for "no bullshit" - no misleading, exaggeration, or lies. It's an idiom, possibly an American one but I'm not sure. They're using it here as a pun.

rsynnott 6y ago

> and in American politics, Team Red generally would refer to the Republicans Interestingly, this is surprisingly recent. In 20th century Democrats were usually (though not always) red, and Republicans blue, which would approximate UK usage (red for Labour, blue for Tories). Some TV network switched in the 90s, and it just caught on. Apparently 2000 was the first time it was done consistently.

bradwood 6y ago
Right. Red is normally for lefties... ("Red" being a reference to communism, I guess).
- senkora 6y ago
  Wikipedia has a great article on all the different ways that color is used in politics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_colour

gshulegaard 6y ago

I believe that it's a reference to the colloquialism that references how matadors use red capes to fight bulls: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=seeing%20red https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=seeing%20red So Team Red -> Seeing Red -> Bull?

Lio 6y ago

Poor old pangolins. Personally I'd heard of them because they're so critically endangered with extinction. They seem like quite timid little creature. Hopefully their involvement in Covid transmission will encourage people to stop eating them or using them for bullshit folk medicine.