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oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll rece
by geek_at 6y ago
oh damn. I've created an account for my newborn son on my (free) google workspace domain and send him emails every few weeks with updates and photos. He'll receive the account when he's like 12. Will these be deleted too?
- sulam 6y agoIt seems you need to actually use the tool, ie, this is a service they're offering, not something they (currently) do without active involvement.
- toast0 6y agoOn the other hand, they literally advertised this use case on tv. Kind of rude to make it not work.
- alisonkisk 6y agoIt does work.
- mehrdadn 6y agoI don't know but I would suggest (at least) logging into the account and doing something (uploading a file, sending an email, etc.) every year.
- josephg 6y agoI would also suggest yearly doing a full backup of the account: https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout Gmail backup archives are easy enough to load and read in other email programs, if google's storage ever becomes unreliable for you.
- snazz 6y agoGoogle even lets you schedule them every two months, which works nicely for me.
- stusmall 6y agoI just wanted to say I love that idea. It's adorable. I hope you find a way to keep the account intact for him to open.
- snazz 6y agoI'm not seeing the Inactive Account Manager on my paid Google Workspace account, so I don't think it applies there. If it does on legacy free domains, I'm guessing that you'll get a notice in one of the admin newsletters.
- ska 6y agoIt seems like only if you are over storage. Regardless, all you'd have to do is log into it once a year to avoid this. You should probably be backing it up externally at least this often if you care about the content...
- metric10 6y agoI would be surprised if they did this for Workspace accounts. Deleting data from a organization would be a disaster for Google. I.e. an account may be at a center of a lawsuit or subject to data retention laws. Indeed, this says no: https://support.google.com/a/answer/38173?hl=en https://support.google.com/a/answer/38173?hl=en
- fletchowns 6y agoHmmm is my G Suite account different from a Workspace account? I got this email a few weeks ago saying I hadn't logged in for awhile and they were going to delete my data: https://i.imgur.com/XAEXQWb.png https://i.imgur.com/XAEXQWb.png
- dannyw 6y agoAre you a paying customer?
- fletchowns 6y agoNo, this is a free account from way back when (2010 maybe?)
- ValentineC 6y agoGoogle deletes legacy Google Apps domains if none of the accounts at that domain are logged into for a year or something. I've received multiple warnings for some of my unused domains.
- scrollaway 6y agoThis I believe only applies to the root/admin account of the GSuite domain. Extra users created in the account are just extra user slots for that account.
- ValentineC 6y ago
- Triv888 6y agoJust dont delete the emails from your sent folder... But of course still back it up
- EvanAnderson 6y agoThat's a neat idea, but I'd be really, really distrustful of putting an effort of genuine feelings into a platform hosted by somebody else. That's a long time for Google not to screw it up, and it'll be sad when they do screw it up.
- danielheath 6y agoYeah. I run a private wordpress instance on my NAS for this purpose.
- fps_doug 6y agoPhysical photographic album here.
- haggy 6y agoLocal NAS with offsite backup is far more resilient than any physical item onsite. One house fire and that album goes up in smoke.
- yencabulator 6y agoSome years back, I tried to take photos out of a random family album to scan them. The album was built so there was a plastic sheet in front of the photos, to hold them in place / protect them. Well, that sheet ended up ripping bits out of the photos, and it's glossy enough that I can't scan the photos through it. Be careful with assumptions of how long physical products last. Also, books used to be printed on better paper; modern cheap books will not last as long as the old ones did. I have a couple of collector's edition books printed on acid-free paper...
- fps_doug 6y ago:-) It's not like I'm using an old analog camera, or delete the files after printing. It's just nice to a/ have an extra copy just in case and b/ it's more enjoyable/sentimental than looking at photos on a laptop, smartphone or TV. At least my kids really enjoy it a lot. They liked to look at the albums my mom made from my pictures when they were between 2 and 5, still do today, even though they perfectly know how to navigate to all the photos on a tablet. That's when I decided to do it.
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- runlevel1 6y agoA policy change that sabotages an idea that Google itself gave many people just a few years ago. Google's "Dear Sophie" ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPklt9nYas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhPklt9nYas
- inetknght 6y agoI wonder how close that skirts laws around false advertising
- vageli 6y ago> I wonder how close that skirts laws around false advertising At the time it wasn't fraudulent, though.
- kuschku 6y agoSame with the Google Pixel thing, where Pixels had less storage than iPhones, but Google constantly ran ads saying that wasn't an issue because you'd have unlimited storage for all your photos and RAWs, forever, with no restrictions, as long as they were auto-uploaded by Google Photos from the Google Camera on your Google Pixel. And now even compressed jpegs have a size and time limit.
- Cyph0n 6y agoI recently had an idea for a similar service that uses a storage account of your choosing as a backend. The plan was to market it as a “vault” for your emails and attachments. Basically, you get an email address, and any email you send to it is streamed to a storage account of your choosing, with optional minimal processing (e.g., convert your emails into Markdown prior to storage). I spent a while setting up the mail processing backend using Postfix + a mail filter written in Rust. I ultimately ended up scrapping the project because: A) It didn’t seem like there was a large enough market of paying customers. B) There already are a few services that do something like this, but with a focus on attachments.
- rsync 6y agoYou can sort of do this now by: - dump your gmail to gdrive with "google takeout" - dump your gdrive with rclone (to some cloud service or whatever) https://forum.rclone.org/t/is-it-possible-to-directly-backup-gmail-with-rclone/10612/2 https://forum.rclone.org/t/is-it-possible-to-directly-backup...
- tehabe 6y agoEmails already counted against the 15 GB quota for free accounts. So no change there.
- amerkhalid 6y agoI have been writing a journal addressed to my son. It is just a markdown file. But this system has a flaw that is I go back and edit old entries. I would never trust a 3rd party for this kind of project. But I like that you cannot edit your emails. It just feels more honest. Now I am thinking of sending him hand written letters by mail. And just save them until he is old enough. I can add photos or his other favorite things in the letters. It would be a lot more fun to open these letters in the future instead of reading a text file.
- Siira 6y agoJust use git. The history is there (unless you take drastic measures.).
- maxerickson 6y agoSomeone did this but skipped the setting up an account and sent the emails to me. I was very glad that they understood the mistake right away once I pointed it out.
- zelly 6y agoPay for your own hard drives
- firecall 6y agoNot if you are a paid user, I dont think. So maybe you could become a paid user, then add that account to your family account? But certainly, you should back that account up. And consider moving to another service.
- wheresvic3 6y agoI used to do exactly this. However, a couple of years ago when my second child was born I got a family domain and gave them both local email addresses. Then it was just a matter of getting a cheap email host and migrating over from gmail. I also have a regular ema backup script that backsup the inboxes so the emails are always available offline!
- rapnie 6y agoProtonMail just launched an import/export tool that not only allows you to store your mails locally, but provides easy migration paths from Gmail, Yahoo, etc. Might be something to look into, and will also probably be a boon to privacy overall.
- roneythomas6 6y agoNo it won’t, I manage gsuite accounts for non profits and I have multiple accounts which are inactive for two years and the data still remains.
- loloquwowndueo 6y agoTime to print those emails and start using a binder from now on ...