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> if you are a researcher in academia you won't be asked to retract your research because it makes someone look bad. Not entirely accurate (worked in academia)

by dig1 6y ago

> if you are a researcher in academia you won't be asked to retract your research because it makes someone look bad. Not entirely accurate (worked in academia). If your research makes someone look bad or have a chance to jeopardize financing, usually you won't get a chance even to send the paper, because it will be shut down in your research center by either your mentor or other peers. Sound mentors are well connected with publishers, and even if you somehow send it under the radar (which will be the end of your research career), someone will call either your mentor or management for confirmation. > she didn't present the results of her research in a light that favours the company's goals. The same is happening in academia, but let's not open Pandora's box :)

YeGoblynQueenne 6y ago
This is not my experience. As a PhD student I've already had a (strong) disagreement with my thesis advisor about whether to submit a paper or not. My advisor thought I shouldn't, I thought I should. In the end, I submitted it and it got rejected and that's where the whole affair stopped. Actually, I really can't think of how my advisor would tell me not to publish a paper, except to suggest that it's not ready for publication. But perhaps, as is often the case in these conversations, we're talking about different "academia"'s? I think there are differences between fields and between different countries' institutions in the same field etc.
- njanirudh 6y ago
  In your case there is no/less PR after effects
- visarga 6y ago
  I bet your papers have math and you know, neural nets in them. This paper was just prose, mostly non original claims, it basically says - this thing is dangerous, that thing has negative effects, offering no solution, just drawing attention to issues, let's say an issue inventory. Then it follows that it's more of an ethics paper than ML, and should be judged by the standards of ethics papers.

by dig1 6y ago

YeGoblynQueenne 6y ago

This is not my experience. As a PhD student I've already had a (strong) disagreement with my thesis advisor about whether to submit a paper or not. My advisor thought I shouldn't, I thought I should. In the end, I submitted it and it got rejected and that's where the whole affair stopped. Actually, I really can't think of how my advisor would tell me not to publish a paper, except to suggest that it's not ready for publication. But perhaps, as is often the case in these conversations, we're talking about different "academia"'s? I think there are differences between fields and between different countries' institutions in the same field etc.

njanirudh 6y ago
In your case there is no/less PR after effects
visarga 6y ago
I bet your papers have math and you know, neural nets in them. This paper was just prose, mostly non original claims, it basically says - this thing is dangerous, that thing has negative effects, offering no solution, just drawing attention to issues, let's say an issue inventory. Then it follows that it's more of an ethics paper than ML, and should be judged by the standards of ethics papers.