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While Apple likely has no motivation currently to make a UEFI-based ARM computer, there's nothing that prevent anyone else from doing so. UEFI is not x86-specif
by chipotle_coyote 6y ago
While Apple likely has no motivation currently to make a UEFI-based ARM computer, there's nothing that prevent anyone else from doing so. UEFI is not x86-specific.
(I also think it's a bit too early to say definitively that no ARM-based Apple computer will ever be able to boot into Linux. I don't think Apple has any motivation to make that easy, but that may not be the same as making it impossible.)
- heavyset_go 6y agoIt's cheaper to just design a ARM SoC with a custom bootloader. > I also think it's a bit too early to say definitively that no ARM-based Apple computer will ever be able to boot into Linux. There's a big difference between a SoC running a Linux fork and actually running Linux distributions in the same sense that we can on x86 computers or ARM servers.
- SulfurHexaFluri 6y agoThere is also nothing pushing OEMs to do this and in the decades we have had ARM SoCs we have not seen this happen.
- kuhsaft 6y agoWindows Mobile/phones actually had UEFI bootloaders with Windows Boot Manager [1]. For some Windows mobile devices, people have managed to unlock the bootloaders and load other EFI applications. [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/bringup/uefi-requirements-specific-to-windows-mobile https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/br...
- kuhsaft 6y agoUEFI can be just as closed as custom non-UEFI bootloaders. Windows Mobile devices were UEFI, but they had Secure Boot enabled making it almost impossible to boot non-OEM signed images. (Un)fortunately, their Golden Key was leaked allowing experimentation with some Windows Mobile devices [1]. [1] https://www.xda-developers.com/microsofts-debug-mode-flaw-and-golden-key-leak-allows-disabling-of-secure-boot/ https://www.xda-developers.com/microsofts-debug-mode-flaw-an...