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> prioritizing based on salary would be a good short term fix You have to remember that H1-Bs are used for many occupations and industries outside of tech. Pr

> prioritizing based on salary would be a good short term fix You have to remember that H1-Bs are used for many occupations and industries outside of tech. Prioritizing by salary only effectively means that 99% of all H1-Bs would go to 3-4 large companies. Yes, nurses, doctors, etc may not get paid as much as a FAANG engineer a couple of years out of college, but they are still often needed. I think that if you want to prioritize by salary within industries that could potentially work, but then you're bordering on a "new immigration framework".

paxys 6y ago
> Yes, nurses, doctors, etc may not get paid as much as a FAANG engineer a couple of years out of college, but they are still often needed. Doesn't that mean nurses, doctors etc. should be paid more, rather than the reverse?
- nrmitchi 6y ago
  I'm not saying that they shouldn't get paid more, and I'm also not saying that people in tech should get paid less. But tying it to only salary doesn't create a balanced system. There are occupations that are understaffed and have a need for foreign skilled workers that simply can not practically match what a FAANG engineer gets paid.
- thelean12 6y ago
  "should be paid more" doesn't mean anything in the US or any society based in capitalism. With capitalism it's mostly supply, demand, leverage, and a few others. Compensation isn't connected to moral obligation.
  - JamesBarney 6y ago
    And specifically FAANG engineer's price is established in a free market where as nurses and doctors are protected by licensure which drives their price above the natural market rate. Therefore their wages should probably be lower.
- 908B64B197 6y ago
  The caps on the available residency spots might have something to do with this as well.
sjg007 6y ago
There are plenty of doctors on H1Bs. The Midwest is full of them and they command high salaries. At any rate, different job categories can have different requirements. I know soccer coaches that are H1Bs. These are coaches who train elite junior teams for example. Musicians, theatre all works the same way.
- nrmitchi 6y ago
  > The Midwest is full of them and they command high salaries. Yes, they do, but that does not mean they will beat out what FAANG is able to pay an engineer if H1-Bs are granted based solely on salary. > At any rate, different job categories can have different requirements. I'm not sure what you mean by this, but if you mean different salary requirements, then that effectively goes away if you start granting H1-Bs based solely on salary. > Musicians, theatre all works the same way. This is... kind of my point? I seriously doubt that these musicians and artists are being paid comparably to a SF-based FAANG engineer. If they are, they are more-likely-than-not qualified for an O-1 anyways, so the point is kind of moot.
  - sjg007 6y ago
    Different job categories have different wage requirements. This hasn’t changed.
    - nrmitchi 6y ago
      I know that. I'm not saying they don't. OP at the top of this thread suggested that it effectively should, by just giving H1-Bs to the 80k jobs per year that would pay the most. I am disagreeing with that statement.

paxys 6y ago

> Yes, nurses, doctors, etc may not get paid as much as a FAANG engineer a couple of years out of college, but they are still often needed. Doesn't that mean nurses, doctors etc. should be paid more, rather than the reverse?

nrmitchi 6y ago
I'm not saying that they shouldn't get paid more, and I'm also not saying that people in tech should get paid less. But tying it to only salary doesn't create a balanced system. There are occupations that are understaffed and have a need for foreign skilled workers that simply can not practically match what a FAANG engineer gets paid.
thelean12 6y ago
"should be paid more" doesn't mean anything in the US or any society based in capitalism. With capitalism it's mostly supply, demand, leverage, and a few others. Compensation isn't connected to moral obligation.
- JamesBarney 6y ago
  And specifically FAANG engineer's price is established in a free market where as nurses and doctors are protected by licensure which drives their price above the natural market rate. Therefore their wages should probably be lower.
908B64B197 6y ago
The caps on the available residency spots might have something to do with this as well.

sjg007 6y ago

There are plenty of doctors on H1Bs. The Midwest is full of them and they command high salaries. At any rate, different job categories can have different requirements. I know soccer coaches that are H1Bs. These are coaches who train elite junior teams for example. Musicians, theatre all works the same way.

nrmitchi 6y ago
> The Midwest is full of them and they command high salaries. Yes, they do, but that does not mean they will beat out what FAANG is able to pay an engineer if H1-Bs are granted based solely on salary. > At any rate, different job categories can have different requirements. I'm not sure what you mean by this, but if you mean different salary requirements, then that effectively goes away if you start granting H1-Bs based solely on salary. > Musicians, theatre all works the same way. This is... kind of my point? I seriously doubt that these musicians and artists are being paid comparably to a SF-based FAANG engineer. If they are, they are more-likely-than-not qualified for an O-1 anyways, so the point is kind of moot.
- sjg007 6y ago
  Different job categories have different wage requirements. This hasn’t changed.
  - nrmitchi 6y ago
    I know that. I'm not saying they don't. OP at the top of this thread suggested that it effectively should, by just giving H1-Bs to the 80k jobs per year that would pay the most. I am disagreeing with that statement.