Yes, I agree that affirmative action has some merit on paper, although there's also many good points for why it might not work after all. I'm arguing on a matt

Yes, I agree that affirmative action has some merit on paper, although there's also many good points for why it might not work after all. I'm arguing on a matter of principle here. I think my root-level comment made it more than clear that that's my perspective and it's somewhat annoying that people seem to have no other answer than "but it works". Once again, my point is: Discrimination, regardless of the direction, is morally bad. I'm saying we shouldn't do it even if we think it might work. > you're irrationally insisting that a complex social problem can be distilled into an 11-word yes-or-no question No. I'm just saying this is not the answer. > that frames your side of the argument favorably Yes. And you know what? This wasn't my own idea. I just grew tired of having this kind of thing thrown at me and to see it thrown at others. This is the kind of framing the left uses. So now I'm just throwing it back. You don't agree with me? You're a racist. And suddenly everybody is butthurt because I point out that fulfilling the dictionary-definition of racism makes you a racist. What. A. Joke. So here's an idea: Instead of complaining about my framing, how about you just explain how this could possibly not be racist? Because I haven't seen one good explanation. Not one. And no, "it's complicated" is not an answer.