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Why shouldn't they hire foreigners? It is a global company. When visa policies are tightened, FAANG companies don't decide "well, instead of hiring this Indian

Why shouldn't they hire foreigners? It is a global company. When visa policies are tightened, FAANG companies don't decide "well, instead of hiring this Indian who passed our interview process, we'll hire an American who failed it instead". Rather, they expand their offices in places with less restrictive visa policies, like London or Vancouver.

ajsnigrutin 6y ago
...or they hire an american, who they have to pay money than a foreigner, and is not tied to them via their visa.
- umanwizard 6y ago
  Indeed, one could plausibly imagine that happening! But in fact, at Facebook, it doesn’t.
sjg007 6y ago
Except that they really don't. That may change post pandemic and would change in the long term due to policy decisions. But global offices tend to organize around specific functions and/or products. A lot happen by acquisition. You need, not just the talented employee but all of the support systems in place around them to operate in that country. That cost is a lot higher than bringing them over. Then you have the risk of them leaving too. Way more expensive than employing 4k H1Bs. Then once you get that office established you can bring people over on L1 visas I believe.
- umanwizard 6y ago
  > global offices tend to organize around specific functions and/or products Simply not true for Facebook. The London office has a wide variety of different teams working on different projects, often directly on the same projects as teams in the US offices.
  - sjg007 6y ago
    I am pretty sure the London office is focused on UK and European issues, GDPR and the like as well as the local ad market.. Well FB has an office in Ireland so they are probably focused on the EU issues more so. But yes there is cross pollination but that is the exception rather than the norm. FB is not the first to venture down this road.
    - umanwizard 6y ago
      > I am pretty sure the London office is focused on UK and European issues, GDPR and the like as well as the local ad market. You may be “pretty sure”, but you are wrong. I worked at Facebook for four years including with many people from the London office. I don’t know how else I can convince you.
one2know 6y ago
You mean why shouldn't Facebook hire foreigners in America. One, their motives are because they want slaves that can't rat them out to illegal activites. Two, they "remit most of their paycheck out of the country. Three, if everyone had to travel to the other side of the planet to get a job, that would be fucking insane for everyone. Four, their managers are foreign gangsters who don't give a fuck about this country. Facebook already has offices over there. Everywhere. They could hire tomorrow. They want slaves and slavery is what this shit is about. This is how it works. Foreign manager bribes a US based VP and gets a inter-company transfer. Automatic L1 visa no questions ask. Then they start selling 200-500k jobs to people they know back in their home country. Those people pay a cut, maybe $50k maybe $150k to their trafficker in order to come to the US as a SDE away from their "shithole" country and make $50k. They don't know what they are doing. Doesn't matter, SDE, manager, director, VP are all from the same country and are a fucking GANG

ajsnigrutin 6y ago

...or they hire an american, who they have to pay money than a foreigner, and is not tied to them via their visa.

umanwizard 6y ago
Indeed, one could plausibly imagine that happening! But in fact, at Facebook, it doesn’t.

sjg007 6y ago

Except that they really don't. That may change post pandemic and would change in the long term due to policy decisions. But global offices tend to organize around specific functions and/or products. A lot happen by acquisition. You need, not just the talented employee but all of the support systems in place around them to operate in that country. That cost is a lot higher than bringing them over. Then you have the risk of them leaving too. Way more expensive than employing 4k H1Bs. Then once you get that office established you can bring people over on L1 visas I believe.

umanwizard 6y ago
> global offices tend to organize around specific functions and/or products Simply not true for Facebook. The London office has a wide variety of different teams working on different projects, often directly on the same projects as teams in the US offices.
- sjg007 6y ago
  I am pretty sure the London office is focused on UK and European issues, GDPR and the like as well as the local ad market.. Well FB has an office in Ireland so they are probably focused on the EU issues more so. But yes there is cross pollination but that is the exception rather than the norm. FB is not the first to venture down this road.
  - umanwizard 6y ago
    > I am pretty sure the London office is focused on UK and European issues, GDPR and the like as well as the local ad market. You may be “pretty sure”, but you are wrong. I worked at Facebook for four years including with many people from the London office. I don’t know how else I can convince you.

one2know 6y ago

You mean why shouldn't Facebook hire foreigners in America. One, their motives are because they want slaves that can't rat them out to illegal activites. Two, they "remit most of their paycheck out of the country. Three, if everyone had to travel to the other side of the planet to get a job, that would be fucking insane for everyone. Four, their managers are foreign gangsters who don't give a fuck about this country. Facebook already has offices over there. Everywhere. They could hire tomorrow. They want slaves and slavery is what this shit is about. This is how it works. Foreign manager bribes a US based VP and gets a inter-company transfer. Automatic L1 visa no questions ask. Then they start selling 200-500k jobs to people they know back in their home country. Those people pay a cut, maybe $50k maybe $150k to their trafficker in order to come to the US as a SDE away from their "shithole" country and make $50k. They don't know what they are doing. Doesn't matter, SDE, manager, director, VP are all from the same country and are a fucking GANG