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She said, "If you can't meet these conditions, I will resign effective <XY date>." Google said, "We can't meet these conditions, we accept your resignation and
by compiler-guy 6y ago
She said, "If you can't meet these conditions, I will resign effective <XY date>." Google said, "We can't meet these conditions, we accept your resignation and move it to <much earlier date>."
- uoaei 6y agoNo, she didn't say that. She said she may set a date in the future for her resignation. That is non-committal and non-specific. Your characterization is inaccurate.
- compiler-guy 6y agoPeople will have to find the source document, which to the best of my knowledge is not public (note, not the message to Women and Allies), read it, and then reach their own conclusions. I stand by my characterization. She characterizes it herself thusly: "I said here are the conditions. If you can meet them great I’ll take my name off this paper, if not then I can work on a last date." https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1334341991795142667 https://twitter.com/timnitGebru/status/1334341991795142667
- xibalba 6y agoI think this is a major source of confusion in this whole conversation. There is clearly a follow up conversation between Timnit and some manager(s) (the name Megan is mentioned) in which this ultimatum was proffered.
- uoaei 6y agoThat's not clear to me, nor apparently to most people who are interpreting this situation.
- uoaei 6y ago> I can work on a last date ...is both non-committal and non-specific. What are you seeing that everyone else is not?
- Andraia 6y ago> No, she didn't say that. Citation needed. Gebru could publish it — she's not exactly silent — but chooses not to. It's perfectly reasonable to think that someone hiding something has something to hide.
- uoaei 6y agoThere is obviously a legal minefield here already. I think it is disingenuous to put that burden of proof on her at this stage.