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> so... I guess you're tired of it? I'm not. Many other rhetorical moves have a lot of politics to muddle through / implicit assumptions that can be disavowed
by prionassembly 6y ago
> so... I guess you're tired of it?
I'm not.
Many other rhetorical moves have a lot of politics to muddle through / implicit assumptions that can be disavowed in bad faith, etc. I don't like to engage in that kind of discussion at all.
But the "I'm so tired" bit is both condescending (and it takes... something... to condescend to Yan LeCunn) and evasive. The end result is authoritarian -- look man, this is decided and settled, you haven't kept up.
Calling this out is interesting because it evidences on the contrary that the discussion isn't settled at all, and that she's unable or unwilling to frame it in a convivial manner that's conducive to progress.
I sit out of conversations I'm tired about.
- adamsea 6y ago> Many other rhetorical moves have a lot of politics to muddle through / implicit assumptions that can be disavowed in bad faith, etc. I don't like to engage in that kind of discussion at all. But isn’t what you described so vague and subjective, that you can apply it to pretty much anything? IMHO it’s more honest to say “I sit out of conversations I don’t like”, which is an entirely fair and understandable decision to make :).
- prionassembly 6y agoIt’s hard to like something that makes you tired when it’s not one of your kids.
- gaze 6y agoYann was (actively or unintentionally) refusing to participate in the same conversation. His response was the "facts don't care about feelings" one. It's not wrong but it is a thought terminating cliche.
- prionassembly 6y agoIt is. Yann also seems blissfully unaware of how sampling bias issues have always been dealt with (eg the Heckman correction model) in traditional statistics, where “getting more data” is not an option.