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Adjustments for disabled people need to be "reasonable". It's reasonable for a blind person to take their guide dog on a plane. It's reasonable for someone wit

by DanBC 6y ago

Adjustments for disabled people need to be "reasonable". It's reasonable for a blind person to take their guide dog on a plane. It's reasonable for someone with mental illness to take their well trained support animal on the plane. It's unreasonable for someone who's struggling a bit to take their pet cow on a plane.

TulliusCicero 6y ago
Who decides what's reasonable, though? The whole thing is a big grey area. The rules should be explicit.
- llbeansandrice 6y ago
  > Who decides what's reasonable, though? The court system. I say something is reasonable, you do not and don't allow me on a flight so I take you to court over it and the court decides.
  - TulliusCicero 6y ago
    That's not good. The courts should only have to get involved in exceptional scenarios. The law itself should be more clear.
    - llbeansandrice 6y ago
      I suppose that's your opinion but that's just not how the law works and in many cases the subjectivity is a feature not a bug. It might be a common sense thing to say that no one would ever want or have need to use a horse as a service animal, but there are miniature horses that are service animals.
      - TulliusCicero 6y ago
        It's not uncommon for judges to complain about laws being excessively vague, so no, it's not just my opinion. Also IIRC miniature horses being service animals is explicitly part of the law, so I'm not sure why you're using that as an example.
- bluGill 6y ago
  the problem with explicit is you will forget about some corner case.
lotsofpulp 6y ago
It's also reasonable to not want to want you or your family sat near a pitbull or other known aggressive breed. Everyone tells me their dog is well behaved and friendly, but I've had to scare dogs away from my kids more than once. My mom has been chased walking around her neighborhood by people violating leash laws. Every time, everyone says their dogs are well trained or well behaved.

by DanBC 6y ago

TulliusCicero 6y ago

Who decides what's reasonable, though? The whole thing is a big grey area. The rules should be explicit.

llbeansandrice 6y ago
> Who decides what's reasonable, though? The court system. I say something is reasonable, you do not and don't allow me on a flight so I take you to court over it and the court decides.
- TulliusCicero 6y ago
  That's not good. The courts should only have to get involved in exceptional scenarios. The law itself should be more clear.
  - llbeansandrice 6y ago
    I suppose that's your opinion but that's just not how the law works and in many cases the subjectivity is a feature not a bug. It might be a common sense thing to say that no one would ever want or have need to use a horse as a service animal, but there are miniature horses that are service animals.
    - TulliusCicero 6y ago
      It's not uncommon for judges to complain about laws being excessively vague, so no, it's not just my opinion. Also IIRC miniature horses being service animals is explicitly part of the law, so I'm not sure why you're using that as an example.
bluGill 6y ago
the problem with explicit is you will forget about some corner case.

lotsofpulp 6y ago

It's also reasonable to not want to want you or your family sat near a pitbull or other known aggressive breed. Everyone tells me their dog is well behaved and friendly, but I've had to scare dogs away from my kids more than once. My mom has been chased walking around her neighborhood by people violating leash laws. Every time, everyone says their dogs are well trained or well behaved.