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> I'm also willing to bet that people who support complete legalization are users either casual or frequent (not necessarily addicts) so there's a personal agen
by leetcrew 6y ago
> I'm also willing to bet that people who support complete legalization are users either casual or frequent (not necessarily addicts) so there's a personal agenda going on here as well.
this is kinda unfair and also close to an ad hominem argument. people don't generally advocate for anything unless they have some sort of personal stake. I don't currently consume anything that isn't legally available, though college was a different story. I support legalization because several of my friends have already died from tainted drugs, not because my habits would change if more drugs were legal.
in practice, I find the "think of the children" argument quite weak here. when I was in high school, alcohol and cigarettes were far harder to obtain than almost anything illicit.
edit, just noticed this:
> The current opioid epidemic is the result of legalization through medical usage.
how can you even compare abusing the trust people have in their physicians to push drugs whose risk profile the manufacturer lied about to legalizing them for recreational use?
- emteycz 6y agoIn Europe alcohol and cigarettes are normal thing on high schools.
- leetcrew 6y agodon't get me wrong, they were common in my US high school too. but if you wanted cigarettes, you had to find a senior who was already 18. for alcohol, you needed someone with a fake ID or an older sibling/friend (since the US drinking age is 21). in contrast, weed/lsd/mdma/coke were sold straight out of people's lockers and cars. alcohol and cigarettes required planning, but you could buy anything popular and illegal without leaving campus.
- Geminidog 6y ago>how can you even compare abusing the trust people have in their physicians to push drugs whose risk profile the manufacturer lied about to legalizing them for recreational use? I can do a comparison because it's factually correct. I am not talking about physicians lying I'm talking about easier access.
- leetcrew 6y agoit's apples to oranges. you are talking about doctors endorsing certain drugs and writing prescriptions based on fraudulent claims by the manufacturer. how can this possibly inform a reasonable discussion on legalization?
- Geminidog 6y agoNo it's apples to apples. I'm not talking about doctors endorsing drugs... that's what you added. I'm talking about easier access. If I wanted an opioid fix one avenue is pain medication, yes it's through a doctor but this is not starting usage through endorsement it's using a doctor as a new doorway for access. The epidemic in the US is caused by endorsement AND easier access, but I'm not comparing the endorsement part, just the easier access. The endorsement is indeed a separate phenomenon.