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The fact that these products are out of stock everywhere implies more sales than if they were sitting on shelves.

buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.
- TomVDB 6y ago
  Check out the November Steam results. The RTX 3080 is already at 0.23%. After just 1 month. If you don’t think that’s impressive, compare it against some AMD GPUs like the 5700 or the 5600 XT, which has the same share. There’s a reason Nvidia’s quarterly gaming results where a blowout. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
  - Erwin 6y ago
    One of the several Danish retailers publishes their waiting list data: https://www.proshop.dk/RTX-30series-overview https://www.proshop.dk/RTX-30series-overview which are impressive -- just that one retailer received 3500 cards, 4300 clients have bought and not received them and they have ordered 24000 cards into their shop for future sales. And out of the 24,000 ordered, they only have confirmation for 860. This is large retailer, but once of a dozen in Denmark.
  - DCKing 6y ago
    Not saying that's not impressive, but you had me thinking for a second that Nvidia was already going past AMD's previous top end card. But that's actually the 5700XT, which is 4.5x as popular as the RX5700 non-XT. The RX5700 is not as widely available in the first place if my understanding is correct. But yeah Nvidia in general has got the market for gamers pretty much cornered. People will go for Nvidia all the time if the price is the same ballpark. But it still has ways to go before it comes even close to its predecessors in the RTX 2080 and the RTX 2080 Super, both of which are about as popular as the RX5700XT.
    - TomVDB 6y ago
      Don’t you find it mind blowing that after such a short time on the market, it already has 1/5th of the share of a 5700 XT? Of course it won’t come close yet to the 2000 series. But what it shows without a doubt is that there was plenty of supply and that gamers bought it. There is no reason to think at this time that supply was lower than any other launch before it. But demand was way higher.
      - DCKing 6y ago
        It's a bit higher than I was expecting for sure, but I'm not exactly mind blown by it. AMD is famously unable to sell their high end cards to the Steam audience (at least in recent years) so the ability for a new and hyped Nvidia card to sell well in a month's time (especially these months' time), is very much not surprising. The only surprise for me here is that the stock of Geforce cards they got out is slightly higher than complainers on internet forums makes it seem. If they truly already had enough stock to cover 1/5th the demand of the RTX 2080 then their stock situation is not great but not all that bad (these numbers are not that, but an indication).
- thrwyoilarticle 6y ago
  But it does have high sales. It was hyped to the moon.
  - buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
    Hype != sales. And I'd be interested to see what sales numbers you're referring to. Every single source I can find says retailers are receiving very low supply, and obviously selling out of that very low supply. But selling out of low supply does not equate to high sales numbers. But if you have a source that says otherwise I would love to see it. P.S. I'm sure it would have great sales numbers if they could make enough of them. I'm not suggesting the demand isn't there.

Or low supply. The RTX 3080 is impossible to find, but not because they have high sales. They just haven't made very many of them.

TomVDB 6y ago
Check out the November Steam results. The RTX 3080 is already at 0.23%. After just 1 month. If you don’t think that’s impressive, compare it against some AMD GPUs like the 5700 or the 5600 XT, which has the same share. There’s a reason Nvidia’s quarterly gaming results where a blowout. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
- Erwin 6y ago
  One of the several Danish retailers publishes their waiting list data: https://www.proshop.dk/RTX-30series-overview https://www.proshop.dk/RTX-30series-overview which are impressive -- just that one retailer received 3500 cards, 4300 clients have bought and not received them and they have ordered 24000 cards into their shop for future sales. And out of the 24,000 ordered, they only have confirmation for 860. This is large retailer, but once of a dozen in Denmark.
- DCKing 6y ago
  Not saying that's not impressive, but you had me thinking for a second that Nvidia was already going past AMD's previous top end card. But that's actually the 5700XT, which is 4.5x as popular as the RX5700 non-XT. The RX5700 is not as widely available in the first place if my understanding is correct. But yeah Nvidia in general has got the market for gamers pretty much cornered. People will go for Nvidia all the time if the price is the same ballpark. But it still has ways to go before it comes even close to its predecessors in the RTX 2080 and the RTX 2080 Super, both of which are about as popular as the RX5700XT.
  - TomVDB 6y ago
    Don’t you find it mind blowing that after such a short time on the market, it already has 1/5th of the share of a 5700 XT? Of course it won’t come close yet to the 2000 series. But what it shows without a doubt is that there was plenty of supply and that gamers bought it. There is no reason to think at this time that supply was lower than any other launch before it. But demand was way higher.
    - DCKing 6y ago
      It's a bit higher than I was expecting for sure, but I'm not exactly mind blown by it. AMD is famously unable to sell their high end cards to the Steam audience (at least in recent years) so the ability for a new and hyped Nvidia card to sell well in a month's time (especially these months' time), is very much not surprising. The only surprise for me here is that the stock of Geforce cards they got out is slightly higher than complainers on internet forums makes it seem. If they truly already had enough stock to cover 1/5th the demand of the RTX 2080 then their stock situation is not great but not all that bad (these numbers are not that, but an indication).
thrwyoilarticle 6y ago
But it does have high sales. It was hyped to the moon.
- buzzerbetrayed 6y ago
  Hype != sales. And I'd be interested to see what sales numbers you're referring to. Every single source I can find says retailers are receiving very low supply, and obviously selling out of that very low supply. But selling out of low supply does not equate to high sales numbers. But if you have a source that says otherwise I would love to see it. P.S. I'm sure it would have great sales numbers if they could make enough of them. I'm not suggesting the demand isn't there.