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How about hate speech against Romani? Most would see them as White (at least inasmuch as they're not Black) therefore discrimination against them isn't as bad,

by msla 6y ago

How about hate speech against Romani? Most would see them as White (at least inasmuch as they're not Black) therefore discrimination against them isn't as bad, as per Facebook, and yet anti-Romani discrimination is much more prevalent (and vicious!) in Europe. Is this Facebook saying it's an American-only company? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antiziganism https://www.hhrjournal.org/2020/04/anti-roma-racism-is-spiraling-during-covid-19-pandemic/ https://www.hhrjournal.org/2020/04/anti-roma-racism-is-spira... > From Slovakia to Romania and Bulgaria, states have enacted disproportionate or militarized measures targeting Romani neighborhoods or towns. Some of these measures are driven by a racist narrative that casts Roma as a collective health and safety threat. The Bulgarian government has imposed particular measures, including road blocks and police checkpoints, on several Romani neighborhoods despite no evidence of COVID-19 positive test results there.[2] A Bulgarian Member of the European Parliament, Angel Dzhambazki, speculated that Romani “ghettos [could] turn out to be the real nests of contagion.” https://www.coe.int/en/web/roma-and-travellers/anti-gypsyism-/-discrimination https://www.coe.int/en/web/roma-and-travellers/anti-gypsyism...

wbazant 6y ago
Good point! The "whites and blacks" division and even the word racism are very Western and assume a context of colonisation. I bet there are many omissions like that in all the countries Facebook operates in, and doesn't know much about.
Viliam1234 6y ago
It is tricky to apply American norms of political correctness in other environments, which have different history and different conflicts. I think, admitting that the norms are in fact American, might already be too controversial. Even more tricky is when you realize that SJWs in other countries often come from privileged backgrounds (practically all of them have university education), and get their ideology from internet, mostly reading American sources. So, even if you hire a local team of Slovakian, Romanian, or Bulgarian ideologically pure people as moderators, they may be very sensitive about any kind of anti-Black discrimination or stereotyping (because that's what they discuss daily on Twitter), but quite ignorant about the Roma. Also, in Europe you have lots of white groups hating other white groups, e.g. because of them speaking different language. So if the rule is that hate speech is okay as long as it is against whites...

by msla 6y ago

wbazant 6y ago

Good point! The "whites and blacks" division and even the word racism are very Western and assume a context of colonisation. I bet there are many omissions like that in all the countries Facebook operates in, and doesn't know much about.

Viliam1234 6y ago

It is tricky to apply American norms of political correctness in other environments, which have different history and different conflicts. I think, admitting that the norms are in fact American, might already be too controversial. Even more tricky is when you realize that SJWs in other countries often come from privileged backgrounds (practically all of them have university education), and get their ideology from internet, mostly reading American sources. So, even if you hire a local team of Slovakian, Romanian, or Bulgarian ideologically pure people as moderators, they may be very sensitive about any kind of anti-Black discrimination or stereotyping (because that's what they discuss daily on Twitter), but quite ignorant about the Roma. Also, in Europe you have lots of white groups hating other white groups, e.g. because of them speaking different language. So if the rule is that hate speech is okay as long as it is against whites...