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You can't connect 2+ 4k/60fps monitors to it, which is the only thing I expect from non-gaming GPU, besides being silent.

Retric 6y ago
Dual 4k/60fps is still very niche at this point. Last I checked the cheapest option is to just get 2 x 15$ graphics cards. The next low end graphics card refresh is expected in Q1 which should solve this for you.
- kllrnohj 6y ago
  How about just dual any monitors? The GT 1030 only has a single HDMI 2.0B port and DVI which I haven't seen on a recent monitor in a while now. So 1 monitor connection from the last 10 years. And no display port connections, which is just wtf.
  - Retric 6y ago
    Even cheap 4K monitors like Samsung UR55 (260$) can handle DVI. You can go DVI to HDMI with either a 5$ adapter or a single DVI to HDMI cable. Only real difference is DVI doesn’t carry sound, but as long as one monitor has sound that’s irrelevant.
    - kllrnohj 6y ago
      No it doesn't: "Number of DVI inputs 0" ( https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-ur55-series-28-ips-4k-uhd-monitor-displayport-hdmi-dark-gray-blue/6386391.p?skuId=6386391 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-ur55-series-28-ips-4k-u... ) And the GT 1030 is only single-link DVI, not dual-link, so you can't even drive 2560x1600 with it. So it tops out at 2x 1080p monitors (or 1 high-res + 1 1080p secondary, whatever). Literally worse than GPUs from 10 years ago. Which since all I want a GT 1030 for is to drive monitors makes no sense at all.
      - Retric 6y ago
        I meant it was backwards compatible with the protocol not that it had the physical connector on it. Even dual link DVI is rather bandwidth limited when you’re talking 4K resolution so having the physical port would be largely pointless. But, again the cheapest dual 4K/60fps video card costs more than buying 2 of the cheapest HDMI 2.0+ cards. Which is why graph is card companies don’t really cater to that market. Unless your case and motherboard only has slots for a single card it’s effectively a non issue.
dijit 6y ago
Ok. But there are two things that you want to be true then “onboard graphics are a requirement” and “it needs to do dual screens at 4k60” I still don’t hear an argument here for having it all in one package. There are APUs in the Ryzen series, they perform worse, but everything is a trade off, you can’t have your cake and eat it. You can get new and adequate GPUs for less than 100eur which will do what you want and “won’t sit idle” because they’re taxed. This GPU would struggle with even 1 screen. I think you underestimate the load a desktop has on a GPU, 2D rendering isn’t “free” and can take a lot of CPU die space and add to the heat/power delivery issues of a modern cpu.
- toast0 6y ago
  > There are APUs in the Ryzen series, they perform worse, but everything is a trade off, you can’t have your cake and eat it. From what I've seen, the APUs perform pretty similar to the CPUs they're derived from. The thing is the APUs are the last thing AMD releases, and the model numbers are confusing, and Zen2 APUs aren't widely available. Zen+ quad core isn't very exciting anymore, but it's the APU you can buy at retail in the US.

Retric 6y ago

Dual 4k/60fps is still very niche at this point. Last I checked the cheapest option is to just get 2 x 15$ graphics cards. The next low end graphics card refresh is expected in Q1 which should solve this for you.

kllrnohj 6y ago
How about just dual any monitors? The GT 1030 only has a single HDMI 2.0B port and DVI which I haven't seen on a recent monitor in a while now. So 1 monitor connection from the last 10 years. And no display port connections, which is just wtf.
- Retric 6y ago
  Even cheap 4K monitors like Samsung UR55 (260$) can handle DVI. You can go DVI to HDMI with either a 5$ adapter or a single DVI to HDMI cable. Only real difference is DVI doesn’t carry sound, but as long as one monitor has sound that’s irrelevant.
  - kllrnohj 6y ago
    No it doesn't: "Number of DVI inputs 0" ( https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-ur55-series-28-ips-4k-uhd-monitor-displayport-hdmi-dark-gray-blue/6386391.p?skuId=6386391 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-ur55-series-28-ips-4k-u... ) And the GT 1030 is only single-link DVI, not dual-link, so you can't even drive 2560x1600 with it. So it tops out at 2x 1080p monitors (or 1 high-res + 1 1080p secondary, whatever). Literally worse than GPUs from 10 years ago. Which since all I want a GT 1030 for is to drive monitors makes no sense at all.
    - Retric 6y ago
      I meant it was backwards compatible with the protocol not that it had the physical connector on it. Even dual link DVI is rather bandwidth limited when you’re talking 4K resolution so having the physical port would be largely pointless. But, again the cheapest dual 4K/60fps video card costs more than buying 2 of the cheapest HDMI 2.0+ cards. Which is why graph is card companies don’t really cater to that market. Unless your case and motherboard only has slots for a single card it’s effectively a non issue.

dijit 6y ago

Ok. But there are two things that you want to be true then “onboard graphics are a requirement” and “it needs to do dual screens at 4k60” I still don’t hear an argument here for having it all in one package. There are APUs in the Ryzen series, they perform worse, but everything is a trade off, you can’t have your cake and eat it. You can get new and adequate GPUs for less than 100eur which will do what you want and “won’t sit idle” because they’re taxed. This GPU would struggle with even 1 screen. I think you underestimate the load a desktop has on a GPU, 2D rendering isn’t “free” and can take a lot of CPU die space and add to the heat/power delivery issues of a modern cpu.

toast0 6y ago
> There are APUs in the Ryzen series, they perform worse, but everything is a trade off, you can’t have your cake and eat it. From what I've seen, the APUs perform pretty similar to the CPUs they're derived from. The thing is the APUs are the last thing AMD releases, and the model numbers are confusing, and Zen2 APUs aren't widely available. Zen+ quad core isn't very exciting anymore, but it's the APU you can buy at retail in the US.