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Wonder how the weighting will work. If you don't massively overweight smaller coins, you'd just end up holding like 80% Bitcoin & Ethereum with very little of a

Wonder how the weighting will work. If you don't massively overweight smaller coins, you'd just end up holding like 80% Bitcoin & Ethereum with very little of anything else.

pmart123 6y ago
Initially, the index might be more for performance benchmarking for crypto funds than it would be for passive investing?
- wp381640 6y ago
  So crypto funds can follow hedge funds in demonstrating how well they’re underperforming the market
  - greenonions 6y ago
    And just like hedge funds, this will give them better access to capital...
wp381640 6y ago
Probably the best strategy tbh, you only have to go to a few spots down to find some bad coins and the edge of the top 10 to find some outright scams
- anm89 6y ago
  Bitcoin cash comes in at #7 on coinmarket cap and while I wouldn't call it a scam, it's not a respectable project IMO. And it quickly gets worse from there over the next 10. Strongly agree that the best bucket is going to be composed of a vast majority of bitcoin and ethereum. I don't believe crypto is on the whole in a bubble right now but the fact that Bitcoin Cash has a market cap of >$5B is one of the biggest things that makes me question that.
  - ajay-d 6y ago
    I was more shocked to hear there are at least 550 actively traded coins.
    - safog 6y ago
      It's a good time to write a crypto whitepaper and put up a fancy website. It's not alt-season yet .. when it starts is when you see the real shitcoin proliferation. Wouldn't be surprised if the number is in the 1000s.
  - safog 6y ago
    I think BCH is a reasonable idea, block size is a problem with BTC and increasing it is fine even if it makes it less likely that normal users will run full nodes. The scumminess of it comes from people like Roger Ver who peddle it as the "true" BTC. e.g., bitcoin.com is owned by the BCH folks and they have several intentionally misleading things there that try to re-brand BCH as BTC and BTC as BTC legacy or whatever.
    - anm89 6y ago
      I agree, that community is it's own worst enemy.
  - seibelj 6y ago
    Bitcoin Cash is a solid project, multiple implementations of the client, real developers. I don't personally own any, but it isn't a fraud.
  - lawn 6y ago
    That you take Bitcoin Cash as an example of a non-reputable cryptocurrency is pretty sad. (And it's #5 not #7.) Ripple is for instance not a cryptocurrency, and everyone knows about the scam that is Tether. Litecoin has zero development (except to copy what Bitcoin is doing) and the development in Bitcoin itself has some serious issues.
    - 6y ago
TuringNYC 6y ago
It wouldnt be uncommon to have multiple indices and one that is "Crypto ex-BTC ex-ETH"
bitxbitxbitcoin 6y ago
ETH and BTC dominance is closer to 73% at the moment.[1] But your point is still very much valid. [1] https://www.coingecko.com/en https://www.coingecko.com/en
puranjay 6y ago
I would assume you'd go by the market cap and trading volume of different coins. So BTC and ETH would dominate, but you'd also have to make room for LINK, XRP, DOT, etc.

Wonder how the weighting will work. If you don't massively overweight smaller coins, you'd just end up holding like 80% Bitcoin & Ethereum with very little of anything else.

pmart123 6y ago

Initially, the index might be more for performance benchmarking for crypto funds than it would be for passive investing?

wp381640 6y ago
So crypto funds can follow hedge funds in demonstrating how well they’re underperforming the market
- greenonions 6y ago
  And just like hedge funds, this will give them better access to capital...

wp381640 6y ago

Probably the best strategy tbh, you only have to go to a few spots down to find some bad coins and the edge of the top 10 to find some outright scams

anm89 6y ago
Bitcoin cash comes in at #7 on coinmarket cap and while I wouldn't call it a scam, it's not a respectable project IMO. And it quickly gets worse from there over the next 10. Strongly agree that the best bucket is going to be composed of a vast majority of bitcoin and ethereum. I don't believe crypto is on the whole in a bubble right now but the fact that Bitcoin Cash has a market cap of >$5B is one of the biggest things that makes me question that.
- ajay-d 6y ago
  I was more shocked to hear there are at least 550 actively traded coins.
  - safog 6y ago
    It's a good time to write a crypto whitepaper and put up a fancy website. It's not alt-season yet .. when it starts is when you see the real shitcoin proliferation. Wouldn't be surprised if the number is in the 1000s.
- safog 6y ago
  I think BCH is a reasonable idea, block size is a problem with BTC and increasing it is fine even if it makes it less likely that normal users will run full nodes. The scumminess of it comes from people like Roger Ver who peddle it as the "true" BTC. e.g., bitcoin.com is owned by the BCH folks and they have several intentionally misleading things there that try to re-brand BCH as BTC and BTC as BTC legacy or whatever.
  - anm89 6y ago
    I agree, that community is it's own worst enemy.
- seibelj 6y ago
  Bitcoin Cash is a solid project, multiple implementations of the client, real developers. I don't personally own any, but it isn't a fraud.
- lawn 6y ago
  That you take Bitcoin Cash as an example of a non-reputable cryptocurrency is pretty sad. (And it's #5 not #7.) Ripple is for instance not a cryptocurrency, and everyone knows about the scam that is Tether. Litecoin has zero development (except to copy what Bitcoin is doing) and the development in Bitcoin itself has some serious issues.
  - 6y ago

TuringNYC 6y ago

It wouldnt be uncommon to have multiple indices and one that is "Crypto ex-BTC ex-ETH"

bitxbitxbitcoin 6y ago

ETH and BTC dominance is closer to 73% at the moment.[1] But your point is still very much valid. [1] https://www.coingecko.com/en https://www.coingecko.com/en

puranjay 6y ago

I would assume you'd go by the market cap and trading volume of different coins. So BTC and ETH would dominate, but you'd also have to make room for LINK, XRP, DOT, etc.