The disagreement is because most M1 reviews/comments were a bit of fan fiction - ranging from custom instructions for JavaScript, to "order of magnitude" perf

The disagreement is because most M1 reviews/comments were a bit of fan fiction - ranging from custom instructions for JavaScript, to "order of magnitude" perf per watt gains. Just as it doesn't make sense comparing the performance of the fanless M1 with a desktop CPU, it doesn't make sense comparing the perf-per-watt either; they are just optimized for different parameters. From what I've seen with the more objective benchmarks (not just geekbench), the Ryzens don't seem to be doing worse if you account for 7nm vs 5nm.