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I came to share exactly this. The UAE is the most forward thinking, of any of the Gulf states. Economic planning literally spans 100 years and multiple scenario

by cik 6y ago

I came to share exactly this. The UAE is the most forward thinking, of any of the Gulf states. Economic planning literally spans 100 years and multiple scenarios. They're using oil wealth to actively invest in finance, tourism, technology, high-yield agri-tech, and medical research. They also have the most vibrant (by far) tech scene of the Arab world, and are working only to hyper-accelerate that.

Thlom 6y ago
If they are so rich and forward thinking, why do they use slave labor?
- Nowado 6y ago
  ... why not?
- wongarsu 6y ago
  Being rich and forward thinking is independent of morals
- fakedang 6y ago
  First of all, it's not slave labour that's employed in the construction industry or any of the other sectors. I think I can speak for this considering my relatives worked those "slave" jobs as you put it. The UAE had long been forced by the British and the Americans to abolish slavery before they gained their independence. This, unlike Saudi Arabia, where it was legal long after the 1970s. About the "slave" jobs, most of them are basically menial jobs with really shit pay and a combined bunk accommodation. But it's far better than what we get back in India or Pakistan or Bangladesh, which is usually the unemployment line. A number of people have improved their station and are part of the local business community from those levels.
  - scottmcf 6y ago
    Don't they often take their passports and prevent them from leaving?
    - arjun-menon 6y ago
      Who do you mean by “they”? Unscrupulous private companies with criminal managers that break the law? A company taking a person’s passport is explicitly illegal in the UAE: https://dubaihow.com/holding-passport-employee-uae/ https://dubaihow.com/holding-passport-employee-uae/ It carries a criminal prison sentence and a fine. And there’s a big push by the UAE government to go after, and prosecute employers who break this law. I don’t know why people in Western countries, always without fail, mention this whenever the UAE comes up. Imagine every time the US was mentioned, a person always pointed out how some private companies in the US treated their employees poorly and abusively (which I’m sure happens). It would be absurd.
      - cik 6y ago
        You're spot on, as an Israeli I wanted to thank you for highlighting this. There are individuals in every country who perform illegal acts, that should not reflect on the country as a whole. Shukran ya habibi. In Israel we have a lot of love for the UAE. Together, we're already sharing agra-tech, water-tech, and finance. Israel is looking forward to learning about some of the construction methods being pioneered in building up the desert. This is an unbelievably warm peace.
    - fakedang 6y ago
      What you're referring to happens in Saudi Arabia and Qatar (and used to happen until the mid 2000s in the UAE, when a Federal decree was passed which stated the criminal sentence explicitly). Saudi Arabia and Qatar haven't abolished the practice.
- znpy 6y ago
  They get rich because they can exploit slavery, they are forward in a different direction than most people refer to when saying "forward".

by cik 6y ago

Thlom 6y ago

If they are so rich and forward thinking, why do they use slave labor?

Nowado 6y ago
... why not?
wongarsu 6y ago
Being rich and forward thinking is independent of morals
fakedang 6y ago
First of all, it's not slave labour that's employed in the construction industry or any of the other sectors. I think I can speak for this considering my relatives worked those "slave" jobs as you put it. The UAE had long been forced by the British and the Americans to abolish slavery before they gained their independence. This, unlike Saudi Arabia, where it was legal long after the 1970s. About the "slave" jobs, most of them are basically menial jobs with really shit pay and a combined bunk accommodation. But it's far better than what we get back in India or Pakistan or Bangladesh, which is usually the unemployment line. A number of people have improved their station and are part of the local business community from those levels.
- scottmcf 6y ago
  Don't they often take their passports and prevent them from leaving?
  - arjun-menon 6y ago
    Who do you mean by “they”? Unscrupulous private companies with criminal managers that break the law? A company taking a person’s passport is explicitly illegal in the UAE: https://dubaihow.com/holding-passport-employee-uae/ https://dubaihow.com/holding-passport-employee-uae/ It carries a criminal prison sentence and a fine. And there’s a big push by the UAE government to go after, and prosecute employers who break this law. I don’t know why people in Western countries, always without fail, mention this whenever the UAE comes up. Imagine every time the US was mentioned, a person always pointed out how some private companies in the US treated their employees poorly and abusively (which I’m sure happens). It would be absurd.
    - cik 6y ago
      You're spot on, as an Israeli I wanted to thank you for highlighting this. There are individuals in every country who perform illegal acts, that should not reflect on the country as a whole. Shukran ya habibi. In Israel we have a lot of love for the UAE. Together, we're already sharing agra-tech, water-tech, and finance. Israel is looking forward to learning about some of the construction methods being pioneered in building up the desert. This is an unbelievably warm peace.
  - fakedang 6y ago
    What you're referring to happens in Saudi Arabia and Qatar (and used to happen until the mid 2000s in the UAE, when a Federal decree was passed which stated the criminal sentence explicitly). Saudi Arabia and Qatar haven't abolished the practice.
znpy 6y ago
They get rich because they can exploit slavery, they are forward in a different direction than most people refer to when saying "forward".