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Interested in how you feel about all the issues at Manjaro - specifically related to all the drama concerning Phil and funds. It is something you view as a non

Interested in how you feel about all the issues at Manjaro - specifically related to all the drama concerning Phil and funds. It is something you view as a non-issue or is it just not enough to make you look elsewhere? I'm genuinely curious. Best.

jsperson 6y ago
Honestly I hadn’t even heard of Manjaro until I saw that it was the new PBP default image. I’m not familiar with the drama. Sorry. It seems to be a smooth product so I do hope they work it out.
- DenverCode 6y ago
  Phil Muller had been storing all funds in his personal bank account. The community desired more control over how the funds were used so OpenCollective and CommunityBridge were elected for fund collection - although Phil still holds more in his account then is stored in both CO and CB combined. Jonathon Fernyhough, a well known member of the Manjaro community, was placed in charge of managing the funds. Phil wanted to use $2k to purchase a laptop for one of the developers and wanted to bypass the process. This resulted in a debate between the two and ultimately Phil fired him and made himself treasurer. The community took to the forums to inquire into what Phil was doing, and he began locking/deleting threads and banning moderators. https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/hwo33h/change_of_treasurer_for_manjaro_community_funds/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/hwo33h/change... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940824 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940824 https://linuxreviews.org/Manjaro_Linux_Lead_Developer_In_Hot_Waters_Over_Donation_Slush_Fund_For_Laptop_And_Personal_Items https://linuxreviews.org/Manjaro_Linux_Lead_Developer_In_Hot... That mixed with the deals he was cutting, proprietary software, as well as the SSL craziness (twice), really turned me off to them and I lost faith in the distro. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgot_to_upgrade_their_ssl_certificate/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgo...
  - freedomben 6y ago
    Thanks for this. I had heard there was drama but didn't know much about it. Anyone able to represent the Phil side?
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    - DenverCode 6y ago
      While I can't find the press release he put out, here is the original discussion with Phil (@PhilM). He responds to a lot of the questions and makes statements regarding his actions in it. Hopefully this will help you see his side a little better. https://archived.forum.manjaro.org/t/change-of-treasurer-for-manjaro-community-funds/154888 https://archived.forum.manjaro.org/t/change-of-treasurer-for...
  - axaxs 6y ago
    Don't forget to add stealing code to the list. Dude swiped some of our open source code and just replaced our name with his own in the copyright. Class act, that guy.

jsperson 6y ago

Honestly I hadn’t even heard of Manjaro until I saw that it was the new PBP default image. I’m not familiar with the drama. Sorry. It seems to be a smooth product so I do hope they work it out.

DenverCode 6y ago
Phil Muller had been storing all funds in his personal bank account. The community desired more control over how the funds were used so OpenCollective and CommunityBridge were elected for fund collection - although Phil still holds more in his account then is stored in both CO and CB combined. Jonathon Fernyhough, a well known member of the Manjaro community, was placed in charge of managing the funds. Phil wanted to use $2k to purchase a laptop for one of the developers and wanted to bypass the process. This resulted in a debate between the two and ultimately Phil fired him and made himself treasurer. The community took to the forums to inquire into what Phil was doing, and he began locking/deleting threads and banning moderators. https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/hwo33h/change_of_treasurer_for_manjaro_community_funds/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/hwo33h/change... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940824 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23940824 https://linuxreviews.org/Manjaro_Linux_Lead_Developer_In_Hot_Waters_Over_Donation_Slush_Fund_For_Laptop_And_Personal_Items https://linuxreviews.org/Manjaro_Linux_Lead_Developer_In_Hot... That mixed with the deals he was cutting, proprietary software, as well as the SSL craziness (twice), really turned me off to them and I lost faith in the distro. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgot_to_upgrade_their_ssl_certificate/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/31yayt/manjaro_forgo...
- freedomben 6y ago
  Thanks for this. I had heard there was drama but didn't know much about it. Anyone able to represent the Phil side?
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - DenverCode 6y ago
    While I can't find the press release he put out, here is the original discussion with Phil (@PhilM). He responds to a lot of the questions and makes statements regarding his actions in it. Hopefully this will help you see his side a little better. https://archived.forum.manjaro.org/t/change-of-treasurer-for-manjaro-community-funds/154888 https://archived.forum.manjaro.org/t/change-of-treasurer-for...
- axaxs 6y ago
  Don't forget to add stealing code to the list. Dude swiped some of our open source code and just replaced our name with his own in the copyright. Class act, that guy.