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I love how hard parts of HN falls into the never 737 hysteria, even though its less probable than dying from the nearest sharp object.

xiphias2 6y ago
,,The global fleet of nearly 400 737 MAXs flew 500,000 flights from March 2017 to March 2019, and experienced two fatal accidents for an accident rate of four per million flights when it was grounded. The previous generations of the Boeing 737 averaged 0.2 accidents per million flights.[180]'' - from Wikipedia
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  As it turns out, when you have a smaller set of results to work with, every point of data has outsized effect. http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/a310.htm http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/a310.htm The airbus A310 had 1.35 accidents per million flights, and for some reason people still fly in it
  - caconym_ 6y ago
    Consider two models of car. One was sold in large numbers in the early 90s and has proven exceptionally reliable, but obviously it's built to early 90s safety standards, and has been involved in a huge number of fatal accidents with various causes ranging from operator error to scattered manufacturing defects. However, no serious design issues ever surfaced. The second is a 2020 model, equipped with state of the art safety features. However, its fatal accident rate is the same as the other model (though the absolute number is much smaller), and nearly every single such accident happened in the exact same way: the driver assist system, which cannot be turned off, has a nasty habit of overpowering the driver and steering into oncoming traffic. The NHTSA investigation reveals that this system was implemented hastily, using outsourced labor and cheap non-redundant components, so that the manufacturer could qualify for a tax credit. Specific concerns regarding the implementation were raised by engineers but overruled by management. I'll take option A, thanks.
ClumsyPilot 6y ago
Well since the chance of getting cancer is ~30%, we should not even bother with traffic laws, food safety or guns - anything short of nuclear weapons is just unlikely to ever get you!
- NikolaeVarius 6y ago
  How do you get out of bed when literally everything in the world is out to kill you
  - ClumsyPilot 6y ago
    Well you probably have no bed,
cupofcoffee 6y ago
How did you calculate those odds?

xiphias2 6y ago

,,The global fleet of nearly 400 737 MAXs flew 500,000 flights from March 2017 to March 2019, and experienced two fatal accidents for an accident rate of four per million flights when it was grounded. The previous generations of the Boeing 737 averaged 0.2 accidents per million flights.[180]'' - from Wikipedia

NikolaeVarius 6y ago
As it turns out, when you have a smaller set of results to work with, every point of data has outsized effect. http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/a310.htm http://www.airsafe.com/events/models/a310.htm The airbus A310 had 1.35 accidents per million flights, and for some reason people still fly in it
- caconym_ 6y ago
  Consider two models of car. One was sold in large numbers in the early 90s and has proven exceptionally reliable, but obviously it's built to early 90s safety standards, and has been involved in a huge number of fatal accidents with various causes ranging from operator error to scattered manufacturing defects. However, no serious design issues ever surfaced. The second is a 2020 model, equipped with state of the art safety features. However, its fatal accident rate is the same as the other model (though the absolute number is much smaller), and nearly every single such accident happened in the exact same way: the driver assist system, which cannot be turned off, has a nasty habit of overpowering the driver and steering into oncoming traffic. The NHTSA investigation reveals that this system was implemented hastily, using outsourced labor and cheap non-redundant components, so that the manufacturer could qualify for a tax credit. Specific concerns regarding the implementation were raised by engineers but overruled by management. I'll take option A, thanks.

ClumsyPilot 6y ago

Well since the chance of getting cancer is ~30%, we should not even bother with traffic laws, food safety or guns - anything short of nuclear weapons is just unlikely to ever get you!

NikolaeVarius 6y ago
How do you get out of bed when literally everything in the world is out to kill you
- ClumsyPilot 6y ago
  Well you probably have no bed,

cupofcoffee 6y ago

How did you calculate those odds?