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Maturity means different things for people at different income levels. I've seen young children mature by managing a real estate portfolio, and then moving onto

Maturity means different things for people at different income levels. I've seen young children mature by managing a real estate portfolio, and then moving onto greater relations and responsibilities. I've seen other children mature by rotting in a failing Filipino bakery.

Barrin92 6y ago
maturity has nothing to do with your income level. Maturation is the integration of the individual into a community and the establishment of mutual responsibility. You can be livelong rich and at the age of 70 have not progressed one day at all, and you can be poor and be well integrated. The purpose of these Japanese companies is the latter, integrate into society in a way that strengthens the community they surround. The purpose of SV is the opposite, advocate a culture of individualism, 'disruption' and 'freedom', and then sell you an anti-anxiety smartphone app with a subscription service because you're lonely.
- greggman3 6y ago
  Japanese companies massively exploit their employees and the presidents often live like kings. They might not get an SV salary but they get an expense account, cars, vacation homes, and other perks all provided by the company. Meanwhile their employees get paid shit and work 10-12hr days and don't get paid overtime. I'd chose SV over that anytime. SV at least pays on average 6x what a similar employee makes in Japan and effectively treats their staff like royalty. Flex hours, lots of vacation, space, good equipment, breaks, gyms, meals, etc...
  - iratewizard 6y ago
    The Japanese employee gets to live in Japan. I would take that over SV, one of the suicide capitals of the world.
    - greggman3 6y ago
      Suicide in Japan is generally higher than the USA. It might not be as high as SV (no idea) but if you're choosing based on suicide rates you'd be better off choosing another city in the USA
      - iratewizard 6y ago
        15.8 vs 14.8 for last year across Japan and the US as a whole (respectively). I have a feeling this year the US' rate will be considerably higher.
- threatofrain 6y ago
  Yet the maturity we speak of here are the stories of people stepping into rich, high responsibility community relations, ones paved by their parents. When you own real estate and don’t work with a management company, that means you deal with tenants yourself. Yes, collecting rent checks is a part of some stories of maturing. Ethnic restaurants often serve as community vehicles for immigration, and will ingratiate yourself with the ethnic community. You will also have a different perspective on the ethnic role of business, and of course when you own such vehicles you also take over your folks relationships. It would be selfish to abandon all the goodwill and debts your parents leave behind, both material and social. And for the article, we have people inheriting a 1000 year old institution. Yes, we have different stories of what we expect from our young men and women based on where they came, and we often expect that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. The responsibility which is narrated by the article is one of humble yielding before the call of legacy.

Barrin92 6y ago

maturity has nothing to do with your income level. Maturation is the integration of the individual into a community and the establishment of mutual responsibility. You can be livelong rich and at the age of 70 have not progressed one day at all, and you can be poor and be well integrated. The purpose of these Japanese companies is the latter, integrate into society in a way that strengthens the community they surround. The purpose of SV is the opposite, advocate a culture of individualism, 'disruption' and 'freedom', and then sell you an anti-anxiety smartphone app with a subscription service because you're lonely.

greggman3 6y ago
Japanese companies massively exploit their employees and the presidents often live like kings. They might not get an SV salary but they get an expense account, cars, vacation homes, and other perks all provided by the company. Meanwhile their employees get paid shit and work 10-12hr days and don't get paid overtime. I'd chose SV over that anytime. SV at least pays on average 6x what a similar employee makes in Japan and effectively treats their staff like royalty. Flex hours, lots of vacation, space, good equipment, breaks, gyms, meals, etc...
- iratewizard 6y ago
  The Japanese employee gets to live in Japan. I would take that over SV, one of the suicide capitals of the world.
  - greggman3 6y ago
    Suicide in Japan is generally higher than the USA. It might not be as high as SV (no idea) but if you're choosing based on suicide rates you'd be better off choosing another city in the USA
    - iratewizard 6y ago
      15.8 vs 14.8 for last year across Japan and the US as a whole (respectively). I have a feeling this year the US' rate will be considerably higher.
threatofrain 6y ago
Yet the maturity we speak of here are the stories of people stepping into rich, high responsibility community relations, ones paved by their parents. When you own real estate and don’t work with a management company, that means you deal with tenants yourself. Yes, collecting rent checks is a part of some stories of maturing. Ethnic restaurants often serve as community vehicles for immigration, and will ingratiate yourself with the ethnic community. You will also have a different perspective on the ethnic role of business, and of course when you own such vehicles you also take over your folks relationships. It would be selfish to abandon all the goodwill and debts your parents leave behind, both material and social. And for the article, we have people inheriting a 1000 year old institution. Yes, we have different stories of what we expect from our young men and women based on where they came, and we often expect that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. The responsibility which is narrated by the article is one of humble yielding before the call of legacy.