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> You are playing Russian roulette that I do not wish to play. In majority of the cases COVID-19 is not lethal at all You accuse them of playing Russian roulet

> You are playing Russian roulette that I do not wish to play. In majority of the cases COVID-19 is not lethal at all You accuse them of playing Russian roulette while you justify not taking the vaccine with "the majority of COVID cases aren't lethal"? > I think this is way too overblown. 1.5 million people have died. > I want to know how likely it is for asymptomatic people to spread the virus. I swear, I will keep checking the responses because I am curious how likely it is that people will catch it from me If you're trying to determine the risk of someone catching it from you (and assuming that you'd immediately self-isolate when you start experiencing symptoms) you should be looking at pre-symptomatic transmission rather than just asymptomatic transmission. Here's a study that finds that around 44% of infections happened in the presymptomatic stage: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5?fbclid=IwAR3x2cKnIDqZfFIpOn6R04KCFDkD7y2Fn1jVlQHC1G8Uq9iCt0w8H7OXmpk https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5?fbclid=IwA...

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joshuahughes 6y ago
> 1.5 million people have died But did they die FROM or WITH covid? That's the million dollar question. Here's CDC data that says 94% of Covid-19 deaths involved one or more comorbid conditions... i.e. these are not healthy people struck down in their prime... https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Co... Point is, just a raw number doesn't actually make a great argument. Even worse, it's a number without context. The most recent annual death stat I could find was for 2017 which saw about 54,750,000 deaths. So '1.5m dying from covid' is less than 3% of this year's deaths. In my opinion, and the opinion of many others, those numbers seem a fair argument for the "overblown" POV.
- Diederich 6y ago
  https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm#F1_down https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm#F1_down is of interest.
johnisgood 6y ago
I am certain many reported cases here are false, or "with COVID-19" cases as the other guy has said. I know, because a family member works at the hospital and we know what is going on there. They make up lies about the cause of death for funds they get after COVID-19 patients. This is our reality, sad but it is what it is.

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joshuahughes 6y ago

> 1.5 million people have died But did they die FROM or WITH covid? That's the million dollar question. Here's CDC data that says 94% of Covid-19 deaths involved one or more comorbid conditions... i.e. these are not healthy people struck down in their prime... https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Co... Point is, just a raw number doesn't actually make a great argument. Even worse, it's a number without context. The most recent annual death stat I could find was for 2017 which saw about 54,750,000 deaths. So '1.5m dying from covid' is less than 3% of this year's deaths. In my opinion, and the opinion of many others, those numbers seem a fair argument for the "overblown" POV.

Diederich 6y ago
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm#F1_down https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm#F1_down is of interest.

johnisgood 6y ago

I am certain many reported cases here are false, or "with COVID-19" cases as the other guy has said. I know, because a family member works at the hospital and we know what is going on there. They make up lies about the cause of death for funds they get after COVID-19 patients. This is our reality, sad but it is what it is.