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>Isn't this kind of silly at this point? I'm not into weed (it's always weird to feel the need to append this disclaimer) but for God's sake at this point I thi

>Isn't this kind of silly at this point? I'm not into weed (it's always weird to feel the need to append this disclaimer) but for God's sake at this point I think pretty much everyone recognizes where it lies on the harm spectrum and we still treat it like a deadly narcotic. Not many people realize this yet, but weed is already legal in the US. With the legalization of "industrial hemp" [0], you can now buy cannabis sativa flower in all 50 states 100% legally. The law requires that it contain less than 0.3% THC by mass, so the strains you can get are selectively bred for that, but it actually isn't a big deal. CBD, and all the other cannabinoids in cannabis that aren't THC still absolutely get you high. You can also create extracts and cook with it for all the same effects as "regular" (high THC) weed. It's essentially like being able to buy beer but not liquor at this point. [0] https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/12/14/the-farm-bill-hemp-and-cbd-explainer/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2018/12/14/the-farm-bi...

bigyikes 6y ago
More like the difference between beer and kombucha, no? Liquor would be more akin to THC concentrates. I don’t think the effects of CBD are comparable to THC with respect to getting “high”, though I don’t know much about the other cannabinoids. Are you speaking from firsthand experience?
- jgrowl 6y ago
  I've tried CBD before and it mainly made me tired and slightly headachey. I can confirm Delta-8-THC at least will definitely get you very high. It feels slightly different than D9 but it is honestly hard to describe exactly how. Some describe it as being better for people that get anxious on d9 but I have also heard the opposite. I have seen some reports of people having really bad times from eating a ton of candies. Similar problems as with normal edibles, so regulators will feel compelled to step in. Mixing in a little bit of cbd or other cannabinoids seems to enhance the experience and make it more like normal flower.
- aphextron 6y ago
  >"I don’t think the effects of CBD are comparable to THC with respect to getting “high”, though I don’t know much about the other cannabinoids." It's not just about CBD. CBD is one of hundreds of cannabinoids contained in whole-flower cannabis sativa. The synergistic effect of them is what causes the effects of marijuana. THC is just one of many. >"Are you speaking from firsthand experience?" Absolutely, from someone who used medicinally for years in California.
  - Kuraj 6y ago
    Huh. Smoking CBD herb doesn't get me high at all.
    - Throwaway1771 6y ago
      It won't. It just makes you feel contentedness. Not euphoria. Or "stoned", either. According to other commenters, Delta-8 or CBG may.
jgrowl 6y ago
I discovered delta 8 a couple of weeks back and tried it. My first thought was pretty much "Oh man, they made a huge oversight." Many people that have tried it, say that they prefer it because it is not taxed as marijuana so they get around paying a lot. I mean you can buy an entire ounce of 95% pure Delta-8-THC distillate for $100ish. To give perspective, it is a sizable jar and you literally can scrape out about the size of a rice grain of this hard/sticky substance and get ripped. There is a whole thriving market emerging with vape cartridges/pens, candies and different blends of various cannabinoids to elicit different desired effects. Hopefully they will just pass the MORE act and we'll have full legalization across the board, but at least it will be harder to change the law with respect to just hemp derived products now.
- aphextron 6y ago
  >My first thought was pretty much "Oh man, they made a huge oversight." The entire Farm Bill was really clever. Republicans in congress and red state legislatures had pushed back against "medicinal" legalization over and over for years. But frame it as something to support rural farmers, and all of the sudden they're on board. I don't think they understood at all the actual reality of what it meant to legalize "industrial hemp". The floodgates are open and there's basically no stopping it now.
- pmoriarty 6y ago
  As with any novel drug, I have to ask: How much human use has there been of this drug throughout history? If the answer is "not much", then you are basically experimenting on yourself.
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  - jgrowl 6y ago
    I can't argue that it isn't self-experimentation. However we are not talking about synthetic chemicals on the same order as Spice/K2. Delta 8 does exist in Marijuana naturally, just at lower concentrations than that of D9. So at least on some level humans have used it as long as they have used cannabis. D8 is sourced from hemp. There is a chemical extraction process similar to that used with d9. There have also been medical studies on d8. Israel did a study in the 90s showing efficacy for treating chemotherapy induced nausea and has been known to chemists since the 70s. Point taken though that everyone needs to consider the potential negatives before trying it themselves. Especially since some people react very negatively with regular cannabis. As always, it is important to know your body and know your drug.

bigyikes 6y ago

More like the difference between beer and kombucha, no? Liquor would be more akin to THC concentrates. I don’t think the effects of CBD are comparable to THC with respect to getting “high”, though I don’t know much about the other cannabinoids. Are you speaking from firsthand experience?

jgrowl 6y ago
I've tried CBD before and it mainly made me tired and slightly headachey. I can confirm Delta-8-THC at least will definitely get you very high. It feels slightly different than D9 but it is honestly hard to describe exactly how. Some describe it as being better for people that get anxious on d9 but I have also heard the opposite. I have seen some reports of people having really bad times from eating a ton of candies. Similar problems as with normal edibles, so regulators will feel compelled to step in. Mixing in a little bit of cbd or other cannabinoids seems to enhance the experience and make it more like normal flower.
aphextron 6y ago
>"I don’t think the effects of CBD are comparable to THC with respect to getting “high”, though I don’t know much about the other cannabinoids." It's not just about CBD. CBD is one of hundreds of cannabinoids contained in whole-flower cannabis sativa. The synergistic effect of them is what causes the effects of marijuana. THC is just one of many. >"Are you speaking from firsthand experience?" Absolutely, from someone who used medicinally for years in California.
- Kuraj 6y ago
  Huh. Smoking CBD herb doesn't get me high at all.
  - Throwaway1771 6y ago
    It won't. It just makes you feel contentedness. Not euphoria. Or "stoned", either. According to other commenters, Delta-8 or CBG may.

jgrowl 6y ago

I discovered delta 8 a couple of weeks back and tried it. My first thought was pretty much "Oh man, they made a huge oversight." Many people that have tried it, say that they prefer it because it is not taxed as marijuana so they get around paying a lot. I mean you can buy an entire ounce of 95% pure Delta-8-THC distillate for $100ish. To give perspective, it is a sizable jar and you literally can scrape out about the size of a rice grain of this hard/sticky substance and get ripped. There is a whole thriving market emerging with vape cartridges/pens, candies and different blends of various cannabinoids to elicit different desired effects. Hopefully they will just pass the MORE act and we'll have full legalization across the board, but at least it will be harder to change the law with respect to just hemp derived products now.

aphextron 6y ago
>My first thought was pretty much "Oh man, they made a huge oversight." The entire Farm Bill was really clever. Republicans in congress and red state legislatures had pushed back against "medicinal" legalization over and over for years. But frame it as something to support rural farmers, and all of the sudden they're on board. I don't think they understood at all the actual reality of what it meant to legalize "industrial hemp". The floodgates are open and there's basically no stopping it now.
pmoriarty 6y ago
As with any novel drug, I have to ask: How much human use has there been of this drug throughout history? If the answer is "not much", then you are basically experimenting on yourself.
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- jgrowl 6y ago
  I can't argue that it isn't self-experimentation. However we are not talking about synthetic chemicals on the same order as Spice/K2. Delta 8 does exist in Marijuana naturally, just at lower concentrations than that of D9. So at least on some level humans have used it as long as they have used cannabis. D8 is sourced from hemp. There is a chemical extraction process similar to that used with d9. There have also been medical studies on d8. Israel did a study in the 90s showing efficacy for treating chemotherapy induced nausea and has been known to chemists since the 70s. Point taken though that everyone needs to consider the potential negatives before trying it themselves. Especially since some people react very negatively with regular cannabis. As always, it is important to know your body and know your drug.