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It is utterly insane to me how confused people are in the rest of this thread. There are people getting paid like $200,000 a year, and they can't be bothered to

It is utterly insane to me how confused people are in the rest of this thread. There are people getting paid like $200,000 a year, and they can't be bothered to pay a lawyer $3,000 to read their employment contract once and explain any of this to them?

shemnon42 6y ago
What's the point of a $3000 contract review if the employer's response will be "Not changing it, sign or walk."
- quesera 6y ago
  Well, it helps you decide whether to sign, or to walk, right? But who would pay $3K for a contract review??
  - an_opabinia 6y ago
    ...someone whom Google is about to make a millionaire?
    - quesera 6y ago
      Employment contracts are fairly uniform, and just not that complicated. A simple contract review is not expensive. One or two hours, a few hundred dollars per -- if you're feeling fancy. Special cases are special. But most cases are not special.
- lokar 6y ago
  What we know is one person said that's what happened. I certainly know of people who have suggested and gotten changes to agreements like this. But you need to be professional about it.
  - bonoboTP 6y ago
    What do you mean by professional here? My guess is some mix of emotional detachment, serious tone and use of the right jargon and vocabulary?
    - Karunamon 6y ago
      Put bluntly, being a PITA when it wasn't at all necessary, as corp-issued devices are common. If I were a manager hiring this guy and heard that he kicked back the standard contract everyone else has for a pointless reason that had a workaround everyone already knows about, I'd have ended it right there because it casts their judgment in a poor light and I could see them causing me or my department issues in the future. "Poor culture fit".
      - bonoboTP 6y ago
        This is not an answer to the above thread.
        Karunamon 6y ago
        "What do you mean by professional here?", the answer to which is "not being a PITA for no reason". Seems pretty direct to me.
        bonoboTP 6y ago
        The comment I replied to claimed that being professional about requesting a change to your contract can get you the requested change approved, implying that being unprofessional will get you kicked out. My question was, how to be professional in the way that will get your change more likely to be accepted. If you claim that you can not get the change approved in any way, then you are not answering me, but contradicting the comment I was replying to. Sorry if breaking it down like this seems condescending.
        Karunamon 6y ago

shemnon42 6y ago

What's the point of a $3000 contract review if the employer's response will be "Not changing it, sign or walk."

quesera 6y ago
Well, it helps you decide whether to sign, or to walk, right? But who would pay $3K for a contract review??
- an_opabinia 6y ago
  ...someone whom Google is about to make a millionaire?
  - quesera 6y ago
    Employment contracts are fairly uniform, and just not that complicated. A simple contract review is not expensive. One or two hours, a few hundred dollars per -- if you're feeling fancy. Special cases are special. But most cases are not special.
lokar 6y ago
What we know is one person said that's what happened. I certainly know of people who have suggested and gotten changes to agreements like this. But you need to be professional about it.
- bonoboTP 6y ago
  What do you mean by professional here? My guess is some mix of emotional detachment, serious tone and use of the right jargon and vocabulary?
  - Karunamon 6y ago
    Put bluntly, being a PITA when it wasn't at all necessary, as corp-issued devices are common. If I were a manager hiring this guy and heard that he kicked back the standard contract everyone else has for a pointless reason that had a workaround everyone already knows about, I'd have ended it right there because it casts their judgment in a poor light and I could see them causing me or my department issues in the future. "Poor culture fit".
    - bonoboTP 6y ago
      This is not an answer to the above thread.
      - Karunamon 6y ago
        "What do you mean by professional here?", the answer to which is "not being a PITA for no reason". Seems pretty direct to me.
        bonoboTP 6y ago
        The comment I replied to claimed that being professional about requesting a change to your contract can get you the requested change approved, implying that being unprofessional will get you kicked out. My question was, how to be professional in the way that will get your change more likely to be accepted. If you claim that you can not get the change approved in any way, then you are not answering me, but contradicting the comment I was replying to. Sorry if breaking it down like this seems condescending.
        Karunamon 6y ago