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Very bizarre statement. If your super fancy technology that Chinese just aren't smart enough to come up with on their own (xenophobia much?) needs to scale you

by danssig 15y ago

Very bizarre statement. If your super fancy technology that Chinese just aren't smart enough to come up with on their own (xenophobia much?) needs to scale you're going to be sending it to China for manufacturing anyway. The sooner we get rid of this cave man "us vs. them" mentality the better.

briandear 15y ago
It isn't that they aren't "smart" enough -- it's that there is no culture of innovation. The best and brightest are running tech startups -- they work for the military and police apparatus. Come to China, find some "innovations." The last Chinese invention of any significance was gunpowder. Have a look a Baidu, Maxthon and the warehouses full of copycat iPads. Look at their cars, military machinery -- most of their military equipment is Soviet retreads or reverse-engineered US stuff. The Chinese are dangerous because there is no end to their industrial and scientific aggression. When a US company wants to do business in China, they are forced to take Chinese "partners." The US side of the office does the work and the Chinese side simply copies and sends the information onward. There is no such thing as a trade secret for a foreign company in China. The culture is entrepreneurial, but it isn't one of invention, it's one of doing something someone else has done and doing it cheaper and at a lower quality. Come to China -- you'll see. There are some good things in China, but they are the exception that proves the rule.
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- danssig 15y ago
  >Have a look a Baidu, Maxthon and the warehouses full of copycat iPads. Innovation is insanely hard. It rarely happened at all for thousands of years. It seems to me that the Chinese are being efficient here. Rather than waste time trying to out-Apple Apple they copy known-good solutions. What do we lose by them doing this? Are we upset that China has a bunch of money and we think it should belong to us? >When a US company wants to do business in China, they are forced to take Chinese "partners." Lots of places have similar protectionism [1]. [1] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ncn-acWtEIoJ:www.ironlife.com/mag/issue24/upcoseandpersonalwithensoninouepart2.shtml+Enson+Inoue+stories&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ch&client=opera&source=www.google.ch http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ncn-acW... Search for: "The reason why I asked this, is because foreigners are not allowed to legally own businesses here in Japan. More often than not, they will have a Japanese national listed as the owner or President of their company."

by danssig 15y ago

briandear 15y ago

It isn't that they aren't "smart" enough -- it's that there is no culture of innovation. The best and brightest are running tech startups -- they work for the military and police apparatus. Come to China, find some "innovations." The last Chinese invention of any significance was gunpowder. Have a look a Baidu, Maxthon and the warehouses full of copycat iPads. Look at their cars, military machinery -- most of their military equipment is Soviet retreads or reverse-engineered US stuff. The Chinese are dangerous because there is no end to their industrial and scientific aggression. When a US company wants to do business in China, they are forced to take Chinese "partners." The US side of the office does the work and the Chinese side simply copies and sends the information onward. There is no such thing as a trade secret for a foreign company in China. The culture is entrepreneurial, but it isn't one of invention, it's one of doing something someone else has done and doing it cheaper and at a lower quality. Come to China -- you'll see. There are some good things in China, but they are the exception that proves the rule.

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danssig 15y ago
>Have a look a Baidu, Maxthon and the warehouses full of copycat iPads. Innovation is insanely hard. It rarely happened at all for thousands of years. It seems to me that the Chinese are being efficient here. Rather than waste time trying to out-Apple Apple they copy known-good solutions. What do we lose by them doing this? Are we upset that China has a bunch of money and we think it should belong to us? >When a US company wants to do business in China, they are forced to take Chinese "partners." Lots of places have similar protectionism [1]. [1] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ncn-acWtEIoJ:www.ironlife.com/mag/issue24/upcoseandpersonalwithensoninouepart2.shtml+Enson+Inoue+stories&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ch&client=opera&source=www.google.ch http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ncn-acW... Search for: "The reason why I asked this, is because foreigners are not allowed to legally own businesses here in Japan. More often than not, they will have a Japanese national listed as the owner or President of their company."