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Poe's law is at work here for me. I have no idea if you're sarcastic or joking around because there are a lot of crazy people that actually would believe someth

Poe's law is at work here for me. I have no idea if you're sarcastic or joking around because there are a lot of crazy people that actually would believe something this ridiculous.

unethical_ban 6y ago
Let me moderate the radical's message above: Scott Adams went fully, publicly, into the Trumpian regime's alternate reality. It is a disappointment, to say the least. But using the t-word should be reserved for extreme scenarios, including some current politicians in American politics, though I will refrain from naming them.
JeremyBanks 6y ago
Entirely genuine. Look at his Twitter. He's gone off the deep end and is explicitly supporting a coup and spreading obvious lies. It gives you a perspective on how deeply negative the cynical intent behind his comics is. They're forever ruined. This isn't a controversial take anywhere in civil society. The fact that Hacker News collects so many conspiracy-minded anti-intellectuals these days should be a warning to PG about the culture he's fostered... -- reply-via-edit since I'm being rate limited: > Trump trying to usurp power like crazy people said was going to happen. He's literally been calling the governors and secretaries of state pressuring them to appoint electors directly instead of as a result of the election. How is that not "trying to usurp power" in an unprecedented way? "Both sides" are not equivalent here, and it is disingenuous to pretend so. The fact that Trump and his supporter are so incompetent that they can't actually accomplish it is a blessing, but that doesn't make their supporters any less guilty, just more pathetic.
- macspoofing 6y ago
  I think you have to get a grip on reality. I had no doubt that if Trump would lose the election, he would not be a gracious loser and would be on Twitter bitching about it until the day he dies. Lo and behold, Trump lost the election, and he's on Twitter bitching about it. What I don't see is any evidence of Trump supporters rioting, or engaging in violence, or Trump trying to usurp power like crazy people said was going to happen. Perhaps you should take a chill-pill? States are certifying election results (including Republican majority states). Trump is pursuing legal options, as he is entitled to. Pretty clear that Biden will officially become President-elect when the Electoral College meets later this month (By the way, remember when crazy people in 2016 were trying to get electors to not vote for Trump even though he won [1]?). So what's the problem? That Scott Adams is calling this election fraudulent? That's par for course. For example, every election that Democrats lose, is also labeled fraudulent, due to 'voter suppression', or Russian meddling or Diebold machines being hacked (remember that one from 2004? [2]). It's a 'meh'. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek [2] https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-political-machine/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-politi...
  - bryanlarsen 6y ago
    What ridiculous both-sidism. re [1]. Yes, there are crazy people on both sides. But they didn't include any top officials in the party. Clinton most more electoral votes to faithless electors in 2016 than Trump, so that's a really bad example. [2] Notice how in 2020 all voting machines include a properly auditable paper trail? The 2004 concerns were very real.
  - dang 6y ago
    Please don't respond to flamewar comments with more flamewar comments. That just makes the thread worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
TheRealSteel 6y ago
It is unfortunately true, look it up.
tsomctl 6y ago
Believe it's a reference to Mike Flynn endorsing the idea that Trump declare martial law and suspend the constitution to rerun the election.
sharkmerry 6y ago
Im not sure either, but his latest post seems to be leaning towards there was election fraud. titled: Episode 1205 Scott Adams: I Tell You How Democrats Pulled off the Perfect (Alleged!) Crime, With Whiteboard with hashtags such as ElectionFraud. Posted December 2, 2020 in: #CNN Fake News, #Doctrine of Laches, #Election Fraud, #Joe Biden, #politics, #president trump, #Project Veritas, #Sarcasm Guppy, #Scott Adams, #ted cruz, #The Fourth Turning, #tucker carlson
- DharmaPolice 6y ago
  Scott Adams has long been an opponent of the theory of evolution. That seems considerably more wrongheaded than any view he may hold on election fraud.
- macspoofing 6y ago
  Yeah, he's a Trump supporter. That he labels this past election as 'fraud' is 'meh'. There are plenty of people (on the right, but especially on the left) that call out election fraud (from voter suppression, to illegals voting, to Russians hacking voting machines etc.) after every election. Where is this coup support?
  - JeremyBanks 6y ago
    To be a Trump supporter in December 2020 is be ignorant or to be a traitor, as Trump is currently in the midst of a (failed) coup attempt, and his lieutenants have been trying to float the idea of of martial law. Most Trump supporters are just ignorant, but Scott Adams is no isolated fool, so unfortunately his continued support for Trump is, yes, willfully seditious. Matters are very rarely black and white, but when you have someone openly attempting to retroactively cancel an election after he lost, while undermining efforts to secure it beforehand, the contrast is at a maximum, and the choice should be easy.
    - bigbubba 6y ago
      In America, it isn't possible to commit treason unless there is a legally declared war going on (there hasn't been one for decades.) Otherwise, 'traitor' is nothing more than an insult.
mpalmer 6y ago
OP's overblown language aside, Adams holds some pretty ridiculous opinions. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1334129785006559232 https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/133412978500655923...
dwaltrip 6y ago
From a quick look at his twitter, he seems fully on-board the “election fraud” conspiracy train. As best I can tell, everyone on that train is 99.9% full of shit and acting in a pretty dangerous manner. I’m no history buff, but I have never heard of any previous presidential election where utterly depraved lies and the filthiest of propaganda were so prevalent, especially coming from people in the highest positions of power.

Poe's law is at work here for me. I have no idea if you're sarcastic or joking around because there are a lot of crazy people that actually would believe something this ridiculous.

unethical_ban 6y ago

Let me moderate the radical's message above: Scott Adams went fully, publicly, into the Trumpian regime's alternate reality. It is a disappointment, to say the least. But using the t-word should be reserved for extreme scenarios, including some current politicians in American politics, though I will refrain from naming them.

JeremyBanks 6y ago

Entirely genuine. Look at his Twitter. He's gone off the deep end and is explicitly supporting a coup and spreading obvious lies. It gives you a perspective on how deeply negative the cynical intent behind his comics is. They're forever ruined. This isn't a controversial take anywhere in civil society. The fact that Hacker News collects so many conspiracy-minded anti-intellectuals these days should be a warning to PG about the culture he's fostered... -- reply-via-edit since I'm being rate limited: > Trump trying to usurp power like crazy people said was going to happen. He's literally been calling the governors and secretaries of state pressuring them to appoint electors directly instead of as a result of the election. How is that not "trying to usurp power" in an unprecedented way? "Both sides" are not equivalent here, and it is disingenuous to pretend so. The fact that Trump and his supporter are so incompetent that they can't actually accomplish it is a blessing, but that doesn't make their supporters any less guilty, just more pathetic.

macspoofing 6y ago
I think you have to get a grip on reality. I had no doubt that if Trump would lose the election, he would not be a gracious loser and would be on Twitter bitching about it until the day he dies. Lo and behold, Trump lost the election, and he's on Twitter bitching about it. What I don't see is any evidence of Trump supporters rioting, or engaging in violence, or Trump trying to usurp power like crazy people said was going to happen. Perhaps you should take a chill-pill? States are certifying election results (including Republican majority states). Trump is pursuing legal options, as he is entitled to. Pretty clear that Biden will officially become President-elect when the Electoral College meets later this month (By the way, remember when crazy people in 2016 were trying to get electors to not vote for Trump even though he won [1]?). So what's the problem? That Scott Adams is calling this election fraudulent? That's par for course. For example, every election that Democrats lose, is also labeled fraudulent, due to 'voter suppression', or Russian meddling or Diebold machines being hacked (remember that one from 2004? [2]). It's a 'meh'. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z0iuWh3sek [2] https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-political-machine/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2004/03/diebolds-politi...
- bryanlarsen 6y ago
  What ridiculous both-sidism. re [1]. Yes, there are crazy people on both sides. But they didn't include any top officials in the party. Clinton most more electoral votes to faithless electors in 2016 than Trump, so that's a really bad example. [2] Notice how in 2020 all voting machines include a properly auditable paper trail? The 2004 concerns were very real.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't respond to flamewar comments with more flamewar comments. That just makes the thread worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

TheRealSteel 6y ago

It is unfortunately true, look it up.

tsomctl 6y ago

Believe it's a reference to Mike Flynn endorsing the idea that Trump declare martial law and suspend the constitution to rerun the election.

sharkmerry 6y ago

Im not sure either, but his latest post seems to be leaning towards there was election fraud. titled: Episode 1205 Scott Adams: I Tell You How Democrats Pulled off the Perfect (Alleged!) Crime, With Whiteboard with hashtags such as ElectionFraud. Posted December 2, 2020 in: #CNN Fake News, #Doctrine of Laches, #Election Fraud, #Joe Biden, #politics, #president trump, #Project Veritas, #Sarcasm Guppy, #Scott Adams, #ted cruz, #The Fourth Turning, #tucker carlson

DharmaPolice 6y ago
Scott Adams has long been an opponent of the theory of evolution. That seems considerably more wrongheaded than any view he may hold on election fraud.
macspoofing 6y ago
Yeah, he's a Trump supporter. That he labels this past election as 'fraud' is 'meh'. There are plenty of people (on the right, but especially on the left) that call out election fraud (from voter suppression, to illegals voting, to Russians hacking voting machines etc.) after every election. Where is this coup support?
- JeremyBanks 6y ago
  To be a Trump supporter in December 2020 is be ignorant or to be a traitor, as Trump is currently in the midst of a (failed) coup attempt, and his lieutenants have been trying to float the idea of of martial law. Most Trump supporters are just ignorant, but Scott Adams is no isolated fool, so unfortunately his continued support for Trump is, yes, willfully seditious. Matters are very rarely black and white, but when you have someone openly attempting to retroactively cancel an election after he lost, while undermining efforts to secure it beforehand, the contrast is at a maximum, and the choice should be easy.
  - bigbubba 6y ago
    In America, it isn't possible to commit treason unless there is a legally declared war going on (there hasn't been one for decades.) Otherwise, 'traitor' is nothing more than an insult.

mpalmer 6y ago

OP's overblown language aside, Adams holds some pretty ridiculous opinions. https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1334129785006559232 https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/133412978500655923...

dwaltrip 6y ago

From a quick look at his twitter, he seems fully on-board the “election fraud” conspiracy train. As best I can tell, everyone on that train is 99.9% full of shit and acting in a pretty dangerous manner. I’m no history buff, but I have never heard of any previous presidential election where utterly depraved lies and the filthiest of propaganda were so prevalent, especially coming from people in the highest positions of power.