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What exactly do you mean by "build quality"? Do you just mean built from glass and aluminium? (hardly obvious choices for a laptop). IMHO, Apple can hardly clai

What exactly do you mean by "build quality"? Do you just mean built from glass and aluminium? (hardly obvious choices for a laptop). IMHO, Apple can hardly claim to be leading in "build quality", what with glued-in batteries, un-repairable designs and keyboard reliability issues that have been ongoing for years.

mschuster91 6y ago
> Do you just mean built from glass and aluminium? (hardly obvious choices for a laptop). Aluminium bodies are way less prone to "oilification" (aka visibly shiny areas where one's palm rests), and I have yet to see any Windows laptop where the touchpad is comparable with MBPs in both size and quality (palm tracking, gestures). > what with glued-in batteries, un-repairable designs and keyboard reliability issues that have been ongoing for years. Battery replacements are possible even for someone with only moderate experience in hardware work, but I agree with you that the process is more complex than it used to be. Regarding the keyboard: get a 2019 16-inch MBP, it has a keyboard with real keys and a physical esc key.
mrtksn 6y ago
> un-repairable designs Quality actually means no need to repair and use it till becomes obsolete. That's why Apple's stuff have drastically higher re-sell value than the competition. Only repair shops fancy to repair stuff, the rest of us prefer it not breaking down in first place.
- programmer_dude 6y ago
  LOL. Louis rossman would beg to differ.
  - mrtksn 6y ago
    no doubt. He made a career of it.
- SubjectToChange 6y ago
  Ancedotally, I have yet to meet a someone whose Macbook didn't break before it became obsolete. A quality product shouldn't be so fragile to component failures. Bad RAM shouldn't entail an entire motherboard replacement.
  - mrtksn 6y ago
    I never met someone who's macbook broke down without spilling the punkin spice latte all over it and second hand market is flooded with old macbooks in mint condition.

mschuster91 6y ago

> Do you just mean built from glass and aluminium? (hardly obvious choices for a laptop). Aluminium bodies are way less prone to "oilification" (aka visibly shiny areas where one's palm rests), and I have yet to see any Windows laptop where the touchpad is comparable with MBPs in both size and quality (palm tracking, gestures). > what with glued-in batteries, un-repairable designs and keyboard reliability issues that have been ongoing for years. Battery replacements are possible even for someone with only moderate experience in hardware work, but I agree with you that the process is more complex than it used to be. Regarding the keyboard: get a 2019 16-inch MBP, it has a keyboard with real keys and a physical esc key.

mrtksn 6y ago

> un-repairable designs Quality actually means no need to repair and use it till becomes obsolete. That's why Apple's stuff have drastically higher re-sell value than the competition. Only repair shops fancy to repair stuff, the rest of us prefer it not breaking down in first place.

programmer_dude 6y ago
LOL. Louis rossman would beg to differ.
- mrtksn 6y ago
  no doubt. He made a career of it.
SubjectToChange 6y ago
Ancedotally, I have yet to meet a someone whose Macbook didn't break before it became obsolete. A quality product shouldn't be so fragile to component failures. Bad RAM shouldn't entail an entire motherboard replacement.
- mrtksn 6y ago
  I never met someone who's macbook broke down without spilling the punkin spice latte all over it and second hand market is flooded with old macbooks in mint condition.