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I’m surprised this type of tear down was allowed under the beta user agreement. Or maybe just ignored.

by dsalzman 6y ago

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jewel 6y ago
The video's creator didn't necessarily have to violate the agreement. He could have bought it on ebay. Competitors are going to do these teardowns privately anyway. In the case of starlink, it seems like there'd be nothing to gain and a lot to lose by being litigious when there are hoards of tech-enthusiasts which will devour content like this. It's free marketing.
- IfOnlyYouKnew 6y ago
  > nothing to gain and a lot to lose by being litigious I'm a big fan of Elon Musk, but I would have trouble denying that this line could be a chapter heading in any biography on hum and it wouldn't surprise anybody.
Jugurtha 6y ago
I asked for one for use, and teardown. I haven't received a reply. StarLink is underrated. Where I live, it's $100 a month for 100Mbps Fiber to the Home (it was $200 last month) if you can actually get in touch with the "National" telco, which has a monopoly on FTTH, xDSL. The other operators offer "4G", which goes to 10Mbps at 3 or 4 in the morning. It's also capped as you can only download with "high-speed" about 1GB before it's throttled. Mostly, though, it's a few kilobytes per second. We lost millions of euros in business because of that, couldn't make video calls with physicians when we needed it the most for extremely urgent situations [tried 8 devices simultaneously with three different networks to get that to work and it did not work]. We bought about six 4G devices (routers, dongles). We bought a 4G antenna. Main xDSL provider took a year to bring us a line. For businesses, it's $300/month for 20Mbps. (Yes, that's 20 mega bits not bytes per second). There were other providers, but they were shut down by the "regulators" because they were too popular. Seriously, fuck them. Let StarLink shatter these assholes. It's taking too long. If there's anyone from StarLink here, I'd like to get some of these babies.
- jonplackett 6y ago
  Is it like this across USA? In the UK I have a 350mb/15mb connection for £50($66) and I'm paying over the odds to get a business connection that almost never goes offline. I am fairly central to a big city though. I love the idea of Starlink but it wouldn't make any sense for me here.
  - srgpqt 6y ago
    Europe in general has much better telecom/internet services than most other areas of the world, both in pricing and performance. I'm really jealous of you guys..
  - omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
    It is. I'm in southern California in a fairly high density area, and my only options until recently were 10mb/1mb cable internet with a 1TB data cap for $60/month and 1.5mb DSL for $15/month (no data caps though). TMobile recently started offering internet over 5G with no data caps, so I'm going to try that to see if it's better.
    - BoorishBears 6y ago
      Saying it is or isn't true is just wrong, there is no one America. How many EU nations could you fit inside of Texas? I'm in NYC paying $65 a month 500 Mbps (up and down), with no contract, 2 year price lock-in. For $75 my provider offers Gigabit with a lifetime price lock-in, I just don't have a use for it since I'm not big on streaming. In Raleigh, NC I was paying $75 for 500 Mbps, same deal on no contract
      - omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
        It's not meant to be a strict statement. At the same time, based on my personal experience and discussions with colleagues at work (with many remote), broadband access in the US tends to be relatively expensive. The exception to that seems to be where fiber is available, but a lot of the US, even in areas where the population density is similar to Europe, don't have fiber available.
jcims 6y ago
The user terminal is in scope for their bug bounty program: https://bugcrowd.com/spacex https://bugcrowd.com/spacex That said I don't really expect SpaceX to subsidize his research with a free replacement.

I’m surprised this type of tear down was allowed under the beta user agreement. Or maybe just ignored.

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jewel 6y ago

The video's creator didn't necessarily have to violate the agreement. He could have bought it on ebay. Competitors are going to do these teardowns privately anyway. In the case of starlink, it seems like there'd be nothing to gain and a lot to lose by being litigious when there are hoards of tech-enthusiasts which will devour content like this. It's free marketing.

IfOnlyYouKnew 6y ago
> nothing to gain and a lot to lose by being litigious I'm a big fan of Elon Musk, but I would have trouble denying that this line could be a chapter heading in any biography on hum and it wouldn't surprise anybody.

Jugurtha 6y ago

I asked for one for use, and teardown. I haven't received a reply. StarLink is underrated. Where I live, it's $100 a month for 100Mbps Fiber to the Home (it was $200 last month) if you can actually get in touch with the "National" telco, which has a monopoly on FTTH, xDSL. The other operators offer "4G", which goes to 10Mbps at 3 or 4 in the morning. It's also capped as you can only download with "high-speed" about 1GB before it's throttled. Mostly, though, it's a few kilobytes per second. We lost millions of euros in business because of that, couldn't make video calls with physicians when we needed it the most for extremely urgent situations [tried 8 devices simultaneously with three different networks to get that to work and it did not work]. We bought about six 4G devices (routers, dongles). We bought a 4G antenna. Main xDSL provider took a year to bring us a line. For businesses, it's $300/month for 20Mbps. (Yes, that's 20 mega bits not bytes per second). There were other providers, but they were shut down by the "regulators" because they were too popular. Seriously, fuck them. Let StarLink shatter these assholes. It's taking too long. If there's anyone from StarLink here, I'd like to get some of these babies.

jonplackett 6y ago
Is it like this across USA? In the UK I have a 350mb/15mb connection for £50($66) and I'm paying over the odds to get a business connection that almost never goes offline. I am fairly central to a big city though. I love the idea of Starlink but it wouldn't make any sense for me here.
- srgpqt 6y ago
  Europe in general has much better telecom/internet services than most other areas of the world, both in pricing and performance. I'm really jealous of you guys..
- omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
  It is. I'm in southern California in a fairly high density area, and my only options until recently were 10mb/1mb cable internet with a 1TB data cap for $60/month and 1.5mb DSL for $15/month (no data caps though). TMobile recently started offering internet over 5G with no data caps, so I'm going to try that to see if it's better.
  - BoorishBears 6y ago
    Saying it is or isn't true is just wrong, there is no one America. How many EU nations could you fit inside of Texas? I'm in NYC paying $65 a month 500 Mbps (up and down), with no contract, 2 year price lock-in. For $75 my provider offers Gigabit with a lifetime price lock-in, I just don't have a use for it since I'm not big on streaming. In Raleigh, NC I was paying $75 for 500 Mbps, same deal on no contract
    - omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
      It's not meant to be a strict statement. At the same time, based on my personal experience and discussions with colleagues at work (with many remote), broadband access in the US tends to be relatively expensive. The exception to that seems to be where fiber is available, but a lot of the US, even in areas where the population density is similar to Europe, don't have fiber available.

jcims 6y ago

The user terminal is in scope for their bug bounty program: https://bugcrowd.com/spacex https://bugcrowd.com/spacex That said I don't really expect SpaceX to subsidize his research with a free replacement.