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With mass production AG, absolutely. But go visit a family owned ranch in Wyoming and tell me those cows don't have it just as good as the elk grazing alongsid
by cjonas 6y ago
With mass production AG, absolutely.
But go visit a family owned ranch in Wyoming and tell me those cows don't have it just as good as the elk grazing alongside them.
Also, for the cows, chickens, pigs, etc themselves, the options are a life under husbandry or no life at all.
I would like to see meat substitutes become good enough to displace the low quality stuff (fast-food, etc), but a world without high-quality natural animal protein is a dull one...
- ggreer 6y agoWouldn't the quality of lab grown meat be better? You can clone the cells of the tastiest cow, grow them in perfect conditions, and guarantee that the meat has zero pathogens (allowing it to be eaten raw).
- rootusrootus 6y agoThe lab grown meat is just a single cell type at this point, correct? A perfectly lean mono-steak would be awful. Until the lab can figure out other basic things like how to grow fat and then get it marbled through the steak, we're a ways off from getting lab steaks that anyone wants to eat.
- numpad0 6y ago> grow them in perfect conditions Sci-Fi reader part of myself wonder if there could be some information theory aspect to a perfect-mess of meat, that the food must grow within a context relevant to the consumer, i.e. a perfect piece of meat or a carrot from 100 years in the future or past is not perfect to us in present.
- cjonas 6y agoSeems like a lot of effort to recreate a mechanism that nature has already perfected. The tastiest protein comes from animals that have natural lives and diets. I'm not convinced a lab can truly compete with the efficiency of the natural process (at least in our lifetime). We just need to consume less and go back to more natural production of what we do eat.
- Majestic121 6y agoI agree with you that a world without high-quality natural animal products would be a dull one, but most meat sold is unfortunately from mass production AG. I don't know for the US, but in France 82 % of poultry, 90% of pigs et 99 % of rabbits come from mass production. So if you live in the city and cannot really know the origin of what you eat, you can bet it's been mass produced. I think that's why there's such a hype around vegetarianism and veganism right now : not so much because eating animal is an absolute evil, but because most animal products available do not come from a family owned ranch in Wyoming but from places like this one : https://animaux.l214.com/poulets/elevage-poulets-duc-yonne-2020/poulets-promiscuite-elevage-intensif https://animaux.l214.com/poulets/elevage-poulets-duc-yonne-2...