Sure, and interestingly you've made my point in one way as I was arguing it elsewhere in this thread, namely that more expensive products from companies like Ap

Sure, and interestingly you've made my point in one way as I was arguing it elsewhere in this thread, namely that more expensive products from companies like Apple are likely to come under more scrutiny from an ethical POV. I do highly rate Apple for what they are doing - albeit under pressure from others. I chose FF more specifically because of the part maintainability / ability to replace as well as what seemed to me an ethical approach. Back to the main point though: surely companies producing goods this cheap are going to de facto be cutting corners all the way up the chain, including ethical ones