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My 85 year old grandparents are excited, they get to hold their great grand children again. They’d be first in line if they could be.

vertis 6y ago
Aside from hospital workers they're likely to be pretty high on the list, if my understanding is correct.
- refurb 6y ago
  The FDA already recommended (it's not binding) that front-line healthcare workers and seniors in long-term care are the first wave of 20M people (40M doses). That will take until February or so to complete.
- newguy1234 6y ago
  Heard it was something like this: 1. Long-term care residents/staff 2. Hospital workers 3. Anyone 85+ years old.
  - boyband6666 6y ago
    So in the UK we have a really good set of expert bodies that put forward reccomendations on these things, the JCVI being the vaccines body. They are every bit as good as the current government are terrible. Priority ranking is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-for-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-advice-from-the-jcvi-25-september-2020/jcvi-updated-interim-advice-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-f... Though this is generic and should change depending on the results on vaccine trials (should there be evidence of differential effectiveness).
  - mystcb 6y ago
    UK Gov originally published this as the priority interim list [1] - * older adults’ resident in a care home and care home workers * all those 80 years of age and over and health and social care workers * all those 75 years of age and over * all those 70 years of age and over * all those 65 years of age and over * high-risk adults under 65 years of age * moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age * all those 60 years of age and over * all those 55 years of age and over * all those 50 years of age and over * rest of the population (priority to be determined) [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-for-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-advice-from-the-jcvi-25-september-2020/jcvi-updated-interim-advice-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination#vaccine-priority-groups-interim-advice https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-f...
    - ulrikrasmussen 6y ago
      In Denmark where I live, a large proportion of infected people are age 20-29, and I wonder if it would make sense to vaccinate them first when you get to "rest of the population". Even though they have a smaller risk of getting seriously ill, that could be an effective way to lower transmission. That is: 1. Immunize the age group that is dominating in the hospitalization statistics, then 2. Immunize the age group is accounting for the majority of transmission, then 3. Immunize the rest.
      - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
        I have a suspicion that once the vaccine rolls out and is working then everybody will throw caution to the wind. It’s going to be interesting to watch this unfold.
        usrusr 6y ago
        Fully expect the same. Basically, if you are less than 65 years old and not working in one of the early access professions, forget all concerns about vaccine safety. Buckle up to face the virus natively in that third wave that will sweep through unmitigated once the high mortality groups are vaccinated.
        pmoriarty 6y ago
        There may be places you won't be allowed to go and things you won't be allowed to do (like work, maybe) unless you show proof of having been vaccinated. There's a good chance that situation will create a black market both for vaccines (real and fake) and forged proof of vaccination.
        tonyedgecombe 6y ago
        There may be places you won't be allowed to go and things you won't be allowed to do (like work, maybe) unless you show proof of having been vaccinated. The UK government has ruled out having a vacination passport (for good reason in my opinion).
  - DanBC 6y ago
    Hospital workers are likely to be first. https://twitter.com/HSJEditor/status/1334042232182235139?s=20 https://twitter.com/HSJEditor/status/1334042232182235139?s=2...
    - shellac 6y ago
      That seems to be a (minor) alteration in the original plan, possible due to the storage requirements for the vaccine.
      - DanBC 6y ago
        I think it's mostly because NHS organisations are already well organised for distribution of vaccines to staff. They're large organisations with thousands of employees. Care homes are all mostly small, with a handful of employees. EDIT: Wales has just said it's going to be really hard getting the Pfizer vaccine out to care homes: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/care-home-residents-cannot-get-pfizer-covid-vaccine-due-to-practical-constraints/ https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-...
lumberingjack 6y ago
This one is the one that makes you very sick, are they really going to risk death for less perceived risk?
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avgDev 6y ago
Oof my grandfather is 2000 miles away and 82. I am hoping we can visit him in 2021 safely, so he can meet his great grand child.
- simonbarker87 6y ago
  I hope you can soon

vertis 6y ago

Aside from hospital workers they're likely to be pretty high on the list, if my understanding is correct.

refurb 6y ago
The FDA already recommended (it's not binding) that front-line healthcare workers and seniors in long-term care are the first wave of 20M people (40M doses). That will take until February or so to complete.
newguy1234 6y ago
Heard it was something like this: 1. Long-term care residents/staff 2. Hospital workers 3. Anyone 85+ years old.
- boyband6666 6y ago
  So in the UK we have a really good set of expert bodies that put forward reccomendations on these things, the JCVI being the vaccines body. They are every bit as good as the current government are terrible. Priority ranking is here: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-for-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-advice-from-the-jcvi-25-september-2020/jcvi-updated-interim-advice-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-f... Though this is generic and should change depending on the results on vaccine trials (should there be evidence of differential effectiveness).
- mystcb 6y ago
  UK Gov originally published this as the priority interim list [1] - * older adults’ resident in a care home and care home workers * all those 80 years of age and over and health and social care workers * all those 75 years of age and over * all those 70 years of age and over * all those 65 years of age and over * high-risk adults under 65 years of age * moderate-risk adults under 65 years of age * all those 60 years of age and over * all those 55 years of age and over * all those 50 years of age and over * rest of the population (priority to be determined) [1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-for-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccination-advice-from-the-jcvi-25-september-2020/jcvi-updated-interim-advice-on-priority-groups-for-covid-19-vaccination#vaccine-priority-groups-interim-advice https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/priority-groups-f...
  - ulrikrasmussen 6y ago
    In Denmark where I live, a large proportion of infected people are age 20-29, and I wonder if it would make sense to vaccinate them first when you get to "rest of the population". Even though they have a smaller risk of getting seriously ill, that could be an effective way to lower transmission. That is: 1. Immunize the age group that is dominating in the hospitalization statistics, then 2. Immunize the age group is accounting for the majority of transmission, then 3. Immunize the rest.
    - tonyedgecombe 6y ago
      I have a suspicion that once the vaccine rolls out and is working then everybody will throw caution to the wind. It’s going to be interesting to watch this unfold.
      - usrusr 6y ago
        Fully expect the same. Basically, if you are less than 65 years old and not working in one of the early access professions, forget all concerns about vaccine safety. Buckle up to face the virus natively in that third wave that will sweep through unmitigated once the high mortality groups are vaccinated.
        pmoriarty 6y ago
        There may be places you won't be allowed to go and things you won't be allowed to do (like work, maybe) unless you show proof of having been vaccinated. There's a good chance that situation will create a black market both for vaccines (real and fake) and forged proof of vaccination.
        tonyedgecombe 6y ago
        There may be places you won't be allowed to go and things you won't be allowed to do (like work, maybe) unless you show proof of having been vaccinated. The UK government has ruled out having a vacination passport (for good reason in my opinion).
- DanBC 6y ago
  Hospital workers are likely to be first. https://twitter.com/HSJEditor/status/1334042232182235139?s=20 https://twitter.com/HSJEditor/status/1334042232182235139?s=2...
  - shellac 6y ago
    That seems to be a (minor) alteration in the original plan, possible due to the storage requirements for the vaccine.
    - DanBC 6y ago
      I think it's mostly because NHS organisations are already well organised for distribution of vaccines to staff. They're large organisations with thousands of employees. Care homes are all mostly small, with a handful of employees. EDIT: Wales has just said it's going to be really hard getting the Pfizer vaccine out to care homes: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-and-vaccines/care-home-residents-cannot-get-pfizer-covid-vaccine-due-to-practical-constraints/ https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/immunology-...

lumberingjack 6y ago

This one is the one that makes you very sick, are they really going to risk death for less perceived risk?

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avgDev 6y ago

Oof my grandfather is 2000 miles away and 82. I am hoping we can visit him in 2021 safely, so he can meet his great grand child.

simonbarker87 6y ago
I hope you can soon