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My understanding is that they've been carrying out a rolling evaluation that has been going on for the duration of the trials, which has helped accelerate the n

My understanding is that they've been carrying out a rolling evaluation that has been going on for the duration of the trials, which has helped accelerate the normal process. Having said that, I believe the EMA (EU) also carried out a rolling evaluation, so I'm not sure what the differences are there.

makomk 6y ago
The UK has put a lot of effort into speeding up the roll-out of these vaccinations in general. Enough that it basically leaked the fact some kind of Covid vaccine was coming a few weeks in advance because so many people were involved in the pre-planning and the timescale was so aggressive.
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  You make it sound like a bad thing. It was never a secret the vaccines were coming and as each day of delay means 5000 people dying I think putting a lot of effort into speeding up the rollout is pretty well worth it.
  - joshuahughes 6y ago
    Ummm, latest daily UK deaths "with Covid" is 414, not 5000. Ref: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
    - tinus_hn 6y ago
      Latest daily EU deaths with COVID is about 5000.
polytely 6y ago
From what I remember from the news yesterday the EMA will be done with the evaluation (if they don't find anything that causes concern) by the end of the month, so they aren't that far off
- lbeltrame 6y ago
  You are correct. The meeting for the "decision" (rather, it is a recommendation on which the European Commission acts upon) is scheduled to be December 28th at the latest.
  - Kliment 6y ago
    Yeah, and given the political pressure they're likely to do it earlier (I believe they meet every 2 weeks, and they received the application documents with the complete data set on monday). Dec 28 is their "no later than" internal deadline. The EC has already said they'd hold an emergency meeting to formally approve immediately after.
- tinus_hn 6y ago
  Yeah, there’s only about 5000 deaths extra for each day of delay. So no rush there!
  - polytely 6y ago
    If people don't trust that the vaccine is safe, they will not take it, which will basically throw away a year of vaccine development and lower trust in vaccines in general and prolong the pandemic.
    - tinus_hn 6y ago
      Doing the theatrics and vaccinating people are not mutually exclusive. There’s plenty of people who want to get vaccinated now, so they can go first while the people who don’t can wait for this ‘necessary research’ to be done.
  - bojan 6y ago
    I am fine with the thoroughness being applied. If they get it wrong the consequences may be much worse.
    - 6y ago

makomk 6y ago

The UK has put a lot of effort into speeding up the roll-out of these vaccinations in general. Enough that it basically leaked the fact some kind of Covid vaccine was coming a few weeks in advance because so many people were involved in the pre-planning and the timescale was so aggressive.

tinus_hn 6y ago
You make it sound like a bad thing. It was never a secret the vaccines were coming and as each day of delay means 5000 people dying I think putting a lot of effort into speeding up the rollout is pretty well worth it.
- joshuahughes 6y ago
  Ummm, latest daily UK deaths "with Covid" is 414, not 5000. Ref: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    Latest daily EU deaths with COVID is about 5000.

polytely 6y ago

From what I remember from the news yesterday the EMA will be done with the evaluation (if they don't find anything that causes concern) by the end of the month, so they aren't that far off

lbeltrame 6y ago
You are correct. The meeting for the "decision" (rather, it is a recommendation on which the European Commission acts upon) is scheduled to be December 28th at the latest.
- Kliment 6y ago
  Yeah, and given the political pressure they're likely to do it earlier (I believe they meet every 2 weeks, and they received the application documents with the complete data set on monday). Dec 28 is their "no later than" internal deadline. The EC has already said they'd hold an emergency meeting to formally approve immediately after.
tinus_hn 6y ago
Yeah, there’s only about 5000 deaths extra for each day of delay. So no rush there!
- polytely 6y ago
  If people don't trust that the vaccine is safe, they will not take it, which will basically throw away a year of vaccine development and lower trust in vaccines in general and prolong the pandemic.
  - tinus_hn 6y ago
    Doing the theatrics and vaccinating people are not mutually exclusive. There’s plenty of people who want to get vaccinated now, so they can go first while the people who don’t can wait for this ‘necessary research’ to be done.
- bojan 6y ago
  I am fine with the thoroughness being applied. If they get it wrong the consequences may be much worse.
  - 6y ago