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Thanks for your comment. Believe it or not those are college majors offered at Purdue. You can visit the link I shared! A major in web dev doesn't sound seriou

Thanks for your comment. Believe it or not those are college majors offered at Purdue. You can visit the link I shared! A major in web dev doesn't sound serious? Why is that so? Do you have an idea of how big web dev is? There's a lot to learn in web dev and it definitely deserves to be a major!

jvanderbot 6y ago
This is a very old debate, and one that will not be resolved with an opinion volley. (Learn fundamentals / Learn specializations). Web dev is big. It deserves to be a major. You could probably have a 4 year specialization on various parts of web development. And you'd be highly capable and inextricably linked to those specializations for years after graduation. And it all may change from your Freshman courses to your Senior courses. Op was suggesting that situation is limiting. You could substitute "robotics" for web dev, by the way, and it would still stand. Coming from a small midwest school as you did, your coursework should (and does) skew towards current-skill-based specializations which help you get a job. This is OK and desirable for the vast majority of students. By the way, I also went to a small midwest school, and its "Computer Science" program was cancelled in favor of more skill-based specializations (right after I graduated with a CS degree). I don't blame them, but I stuck to my theory / fundamentals because that's what I wanted.
- 908B64B197 6y ago
  > Web dev is big. It deserves to be a major. You could probably have a 4 year specialization on various parts of web development. A course on web dev in a CS degree sounds right. 4 years that's just... what are you going to do in 4 years? http, some js, some css, some html, one popular back-end and students should be pretty much comfortable reading the docs and picking up whatever framework-du-jour is trendy right now. By the time you graduate this 4 year major, the frameworks will have changed twice! > By the way, I also went to a small midwest school, and its "Computer Science" program was cancelled in favor of more skill-based specializations That's a very bad signal.
  - jvanderbot 6y ago
    I think you are less diplomatically saying the things I was trying to say more diplomatically.
    - 908B64B197 6y ago
      No, what I meant was that you might get enough content to fill one university level class on web development. Like a 3 credit class in the US.
cupofcoffee 6y ago
A bachelor's degree in Web Development sounds very fishy even it's from MIT.
908B64B197 6y ago
> Believe it or not those are college majors offered at Purdue. You can visit the link I shared! I have absolutely no doubt there's someone charging tuition for these. Web Dev is learning how to service cars from X manufacturer. Totally different than cars from manufacturer Y! CS/Engineering is learning how to design cars.
sircastor 6y ago
I think the reason people don’t think of it seriously is because they don’t consider it an field of study. It’s certainly an industry or a career path. I’ve worked in Web Development for 15 years, and just got my degree in Software Engineering this year. Before I completed I remember hearing someone decry that they didn’t understand how software engineering was a degree. At the time I didn’t really either and was worried that my degree would some how be worth less than a CS degree. Part of it is gate keeping. People are worried about their relevance or the value of their accomplishment. Part of it is a sense of what university study is supposed to be.
- 908B64B197 6y ago
  Software Engineering and CS have multiple definitions. The curriculum will vary between schools.

jvanderbot 6y ago

This is a very old debate, and one that will not be resolved with an opinion volley. (Learn fundamentals / Learn specializations). Web dev is big. It deserves to be a major. You could probably have a 4 year specialization on various parts of web development. And you'd be highly capable and inextricably linked to those specializations for years after graduation. And it all may change from your Freshman courses to your Senior courses. Op was suggesting that situation is limiting. You could substitute "robotics" for web dev, by the way, and it would still stand. Coming from a small midwest school as you did, your coursework should (and does) skew towards current-skill-based specializations which help you get a job. This is OK and desirable for the vast majority of students. By the way, I also went to a small midwest school, and its "Computer Science" program was cancelled in favor of more skill-based specializations (right after I graduated with a CS degree). I don't blame them, but I stuck to my theory / fundamentals because that's what I wanted.

908B64B197 6y ago
> Web dev is big. It deserves to be a major. You could probably have a 4 year specialization on various parts of web development. A course on web dev in a CS degree sounds right. 4 years that's just... what are you going to do in 4 years? http, some js, some css, some html, one popular back-end and students should be pretty much comfortable reading the docs and picking up whatever framework-du-jour is trendy right now. By the time you graduate this 4 year major, the frameworks will have changed twice! > By the way, I also went to a small midwest school, and its "Computer Science" program was cancelled in favor of more skill-based specializations That's a very bad signal.
- jvanderbot 6y ago
  I think you are less diplomatically saying the things I was trying to say more diplomatically.
  - 908B64B197 6y ago
    No, what I meant was that you might get enough content to fill one university level class on web development. Like a 3 credit class in the US.

cupofcoffee 6y ago

A bachelor's degree in Web Development sounds very fishy even it's from MIT.

908B64B197 6y ago

> Believe it or not those are college majors offered at Purdue. You can visit the link I shared! I have absolutely no doubt there's someone charging tuition for these. Web Dev is learning how to service cars from X manufacturer. Totally different than cars from manufacturer Y! CS/Engineering is learning how to design cars.

sircastor 6y ago

I think the reason people don’t think of it seriously is because they don’t consider it an field of study. It’s certainly an industry or a career path. I’ve worked in Web Development for 15 years, and just got my degree in Software Engineering this year. Before I completed I remember hearing someone decry that they didn’t understand how software engineering was a degree. At the time I didn’t really either and was worried that my degree would some how be worth less than a CS degree. Part of it is gate keeping. People are worried about their relevance or the value of their accomplishment. Part of it is a sense of what university study is supposed to be.

908B64B197 6y ago
Software Engineering and CS have multiple definitions. The curriculum will vary between schools.