> There are a lot of abstractions that make programming simpler; complex is rarely better. I think the point is that, getting tangled up in that complexity, an

> There are a lot of abstractions that make programming simpler; complex is rarely better. I think the point is that, getting tangled up in that complexity, and then coming out on the other side successfully is a process that all programmers must go through to become "good". To programmers who have only used frameworks and wrote glue code, they miss out on the fundamental process that makes one truly good.