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Discord could be interesting as Amazon has already shown interest in the gaming / streaming / online community space with their Twitch acquisition.

young_unixer 6y ago
One could copy-paste Discord, replace all occurrences of "gaming" for "enterprise" and it would be a much better business communication platform than Slack.
- dmlittle 6y ago
  I don't think this is true. You can't really join/leave channels on Discord (yes I'm aware you can use roles to give permissions but it's not the same).
  - otterlicious 6y ago
    I've never used Slack but in Microsoft Teams there are Teams and Channels and they pretty much map 1:1 to Discord's Servers and Text Channels. You cannot leave individual channels of a Team though you can mute them and you have even less permissions than Discord. So maybe it isn't a 1:1 replacement for Slack but it certainly could compete in the field.
    - astauf5 6y ago
      Teams is garbage compared to Discord or even Slack imo. Complete garbage UI.
  - zacharycohn 6y ago
    This is my biggest complaint about Discord, and the reason I rarely check the few servers I'm on. There are three channels out of 80 I'm interested in. Just let me leave them!
    - square_usual 6y ago
      You can mute channels and hide them, or mute sections, or mute chanells and collapse the sections they are in. There are lots of ways to get channels you don't want out of your face.
      - Macha 6y ago
        This isn't scalable. My employer has many many thousands of channels on our slack instance. Opt in is so much better than opt out at that level
        square_usual 6y ago
        You can opt-in with role-based permissions. Discord has been used by massive servers with hundreds of thousands of users, it's a bit involved to set up but it's not impossible. You can even automate a lot of it with bots.
        Macha 6y ago
        You understand that an admin needing to set up a channel, a bot and a role is a bit more involved than any user just hitting create channel and inviting the relevant users/users searching and joining the public channel, right? EDIT: Another example of discord's permission system being a poor match for the business use case is pinning messages to the channel is the same permission as deleting other user's messages. Additionally, the channel per server limit is 500.
- wincy 6y ago
  And replace all instances of “Discord” with “Harmony” and you have the perfect Enterprise chat tool!
  - srgpqt 6y ago
    No no no, it should be called Synergy
  - crazero 6y ago
    Someone already thought of this. https://symphony.com/ https://symphony.com/
- easterncalculus 6y ago
  Message threading would make it better though.
  - hackmiester 6y ago
    God please no. I would disable this in slack in an instant if I could. I dread the day it becomes available in any other platform I use.
    - ayyy 6y ago
      Underrated opinion right here. It's like they took IRC, saw it worked for businesses, and were like "how can we fuck this up, slowly, to destroy the very essence of what made chat channels useful in the first place?".
    - eric_cc 6y ago
      Why? It's a really fantastic feature in my opinion that turns a noisy chat room into more of a focused forum.
      - hackmiester 6y ago
        The issue for my Slack workspaces is that they are not noisy. So what happens is, people (inadvertently?) make threads, which then turns off notifications about that conversation for everyone else, therefore taking them out of the loop. And because the room is not noisy, they may not notice that they've missed the conversation until hours or even days have passed.
        eric_cc 6y ago
        Ah that makes total sense!
  - Macha 6y ago
    They're inching towards this it seems, they've been incrementing rolling out revisions to the new reply UI for the last couple of weeks.
mike_d 6y ago
Google needs to buy Discord, do the gluey bits to integrate it into GSuite, shut down all its other chat offerings, and then let them do their thing.
- chippiewill 6y ago
  What Google heard is: buy discord, glue it into everything and then shut it all down after 2 years.
  - xapata 6y ago
    I'm imagining a meeting a few years back, at Google: "Ok, you know our motto, 'Don't be Evil.'?" Heads nod. "What if ... what if ... what if we simplify that?" "How so?" "Just cut off the first word, 'Be Evil.' Simple, elegant." "I like it!" ---- Jokes aside, I think Google does a pretty good job of keeping the major products steady. Our little cohort on HN isn't a great sample for determining what "major" is.
    - slenk 6y ago
      Google Play Music, Hangouts, AngularJS, Works with Nest API.... They've killed off a lot of buds, but they've also killed some great products. https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
    - gertlex 6y ago
      Seems to me that either "Hangouts" (or whatever it's been most recently renamed to) is "major," and so many might argue it proves you false regarding "steady," OR it's not major, and discord would thus not be major and likewise not be kept "steady".
      - xapata 6y ago
        That's a fair assessment.
- s3r3nity 6y ago
Washuu 6y ago
Twitch already purchased Curse Voice about four years ago and renamed it to the Twitch Desktop application. It was what Discord is now before Discord existed. That was already a losing battle when Twitch made the purchase though so they ended up stripping out all of those features. It would have made more sense for them to buy Discord back then. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/Ending-Support-for-Voice-Chat-Group-Messaging-and-Servers?language=en_US https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/Ending-Support-for-Voice-Ch...
- reificator 6y ago
  > Twitch already purchased Curse Voice about four years ago and renamed it to the Twitch Desktop application. It was what Discord is now before Discord existed. Curse Voice released in June 2015. Discord released in May 2015. At best you could fudge the numbers and claim that Discord and Curse came out at the same time. A claim that Curse Voice was anything before Discord existed is flat out false.
  - Washuu 6y ago
    Curse Voice actually released in early 2014[1][2]. I remember mainly because that year is burned into my memory from the CTO at the time snapping his fingers non-stop into microphones testing noise/echo cancellation and latency. [1] https://www.player.one/curse-voice-vc-funded-skype-gamers-beta-now-supports-league-legends-gaming-app-makes-371870 https://www.player.one/curse-voice-vc-funded-skype-gamers-be... [2] https://venturebeat.com/2014/06/17/curse-gets-a-million-gamers-in-a-week-with-the-open-beta-launch-of-curse-voice-exclusive/ https://venturebeat.com/2014/06/17/curse-gets-a-million-game...

young_unixer 6y ago

One could copy-paste Discord, replace all occurrences of "gaming" for "enterprise" and it would be a much better business communication platform than Slack.

dmlittle 6y ago
I don't think this is true. You can't really join/leave channels on Discord (yes I'm aware you can use roles to give permissions but it's not the same).
- otterlicious 6y ago
  I've never used Slack but in Microsoft Teams there are Teams and Channels and they pretty much map 1:1 to Discord's Servers and Text Channels. You cannot leave individual channels of a Team though you can mute them and you have even less permissions than Discord. So maybe it isn't a 1:1 replacement for Slack but it certainly could compete in the field.
  - astauf5 6y ago
    Teams is garbage compared to Discord or even Slack imo. Complete garbage UI.
- zacharycohn 6y ago
  This is my biggest complaint about Discord, and the reason I rarely check the few servers I'm on. There are three channels out of 80 I'm interested in. Just let me leave them!
  - square_usual 6y ago
    You can mute channels and hide them, or mute sections, or mute chanells and collapse the sections they are in. There are lots of ways to get channels you don't want out of your face.
    - Macha 6y ago
      This isn't scalable. My employer has many many thousands of channels on our slack instance. Opt in is so much better than opt out at that level
      - square_usual 6y ago
        You can opt-in with role-based permissions. Discord has been used by massive servers with hundreds of thousands of users, it's a bit involved to set up but it's not impossible. You can even automate a lot of it with bots.
        Macha 6y ago
        You understand that an admin needing to set up a channel, a bot and a role is a bit more involved than any user just hitting create channel and inviting the relevant users/users searching and joining the public channel, right? EDIT: Another example of discord's permission system being a poor match for the business use case is pinning messages to the channel is the same permission as deleting other user's messages. Additionally, the channel per server limit is 500.
wincy 6y ago
And replace all instances of “Discord” with “Harmony” and you have the perfect Enterprise chat tool!
- srgpqt 6y ago
  No no no, it should be called Synergy
- crazero 6y ago
  Someone already thought of this. https://symphony.com/ https://symphony.com/
easterncalculus 6y ago
Message threading would make it better though.
- hackmiester 6y ago
  God please no. I would disable this in slack in an instant if I could. I dread the day it becomes available in any other platform I use.
  - ayyy 6y ago
    Underrated opinion right here. It's like they took IRC, saw it worked for businesses, and were like "how can we fuck this up, slowly, to destroy the very essence of what made chat channels useful in the first place?".
  - eric_cc 6y ago
    Why? It's a really fantastic feature in my opinion that turns a noisy chat room into more of a focused forum.
    - hackmiester 6y ago
      The issue for my Slack workspaces is that they are not noisy. So what happens is, people (inadvertently?) make threads, which then turns off notifications about that conversation for everyone else, therefore taking them out of the loop. And because the room is not noisy, they may not notice that they've missed the conversation until hours or even days have passed.
      - eric_cc 6y ago
        Ah that makes total sense!
- Macha 6y ago
  They're inching towards this it seems, they've been incrementing rolling out revisions to the new reply UI for the last couple of weeks.

mike_d 6y ago

Google needs to buy Discord, do the gluey bits to integrate it into GSuite, shut down all its other chat offerings, and then let them do their thing.

chippiewill 6y ago
What Google heard is: buy discord, glue it into everything and then shut it all down after 2 years.
- xapata 6y ago
  I'm imagining a meeting a few years back, at Google: "Ok, you know our motto, 'Don't be Evil.'?" Heads nod. "What if ... what if ... what if we simplify that?" "How so?" "Just cut off the first word, 'Be Evil.' Simple, elegant." "I like it!" ---- Jokes aside, I think Google does a pretty good job of keeping the major products steady. Our little cohort on HN isn't a great sample for determining what "major" is.
  - slenk 6y ago
    Google Play Music, Hangouts, AngularJS, Works with Nest API.... They've killed off a lot of buds, but they've also killed some great products. https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/
  - gertlex 6y ago
    Seems to me that either "Hangouts" (or whatever it's been most recently renamed to) is "major," and so many might argue it proves you false regarding "steady," OR it's not major, and discord would thus not be major and likewise not be kept "steady".
    - xapata 6y ago
      That's a fair assessment.
s3r3nity 6y ago

Washuu 6y ago

Twitch already purchased Curse Voice about four years ago and renamed it to the Twitch Desktop application. It was what Discord is now before Discord existed. That was already a losing battle when Twitch made the purchase though so they ended up stripping out all of those features. It would have made more sense for them to buy Discord back then. https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/Ending-Support-for-Voice-Chat-Group-Messaging-and-Servers?language=en_US https://help.twitch.tv/s/article/Ending-Support-for-Voice-Ch...

reificator 6y ago
> Twitch already purchased Curse Voice about four years ago and renamed it to the Twitch Desktop application. It was what Discord is now before Discord existed. Curse Voice released in June 2015. Discord released in May 2015. At best you could fudge the numbers and claim that Discord and Curse came out at the same time. A claim that Curse Voice was anything before Discord existed is flat out false.
- Washuu 6y ago
  Curse Voice actually released in early 2014[1][2]. I remember mainly because that year is burned into my memory from the CTO at the time snapping his fingers non-stop into microphones testing noise/echo cancellation and latency. [1] https://www.player.one/curse-voice-vc-funded-skype-gamers-beta-now-supports-league-legends-gaming-app-makes-371870 https://www.player.one/curse-voice-vc-funded-skype-gamers-be... [2] https://venturebeat.com/2014/06/17/curse-gets-a-million-gamers-in-a-week-with-the-open-beta-launch-of-curse-voice-exclusive/ https://venturebeat.com/2014/06/17/curse-gets-a-million-game...