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This is to be expected when you have ignorant people reporting on things that they are not willing to educate themselves about. Anyone who wrote sensational gar
by pstack 15y ago
This is to be expected when you have ignorant people reporting on things that they are not willing to educate themselves about. Anyone who wrote sensational garbage about the LastPass event didn't bother to understand how LastPass works and what the real potential of any breach could be.
Frankly, it leaves me exhausted in the same way the regular stream of sensational ignorant responses to violent video games, boobs in video games, or explicit lyrics in music leave me exhausted. It's extremely difficult to fight an ignorant public being exploited by a willfully ignorant and sensationalistic media.
The likes of Tech Crunch et al who should be in a position to counter such mainstream media reactions and behavior are all too often, unfortunately, jumping right into the fray and showing that they can be just as counter-productive as any big old-media outlets.
- wh-uws 15y agoExactly that. I really want to do an HN post asking people to curb all of the sensationalist headlines (especially if you haven't fully researched the situation). I just feel like it will get lost in the noise though
- starwed 15y agoAt least headlines on HN are frequently edited to make them true. That was always one of the things that drove me batshit crazy about slashdot -- nominally it has editors, but they let straight up flame-bait submissions go through.
- pstack 15y agoSlashdot's discussion of the Lastpass situation was titled LastPass Password Service Hacked and linked to an article at Kaspersky where their title said LastPass Probably Breached. sigh
- niels_olson 15y agoI use lastpass and 1password. FWIW, I the guys at AgileBits did a pretty reasonable job of not gaming lastpass's bad day. They did a blog post about a relevant detail of their own security, which really seems like a reasonable thing to do on a day like that. http://blog.agile.ws/2011/05/defending-against-crackers-peanut-butter-keeps-dogs-friendly-too/ http://blog.agile.ws/2011/05/defending-against-crackers-pean...
- Confusion 15y agoIn which case Kaspersky is already being untruthful, which is hardly surprising, considering they sell a competing product. I would expect more honesty when a company reports on it's own game: if you understand full well how subtle things are, then let your reporting reflect that.
- Semiapies 15y agoPeople are encouraged to use the original headlines, and someone who tries to de-sensationalize a headline will complained at (and article-flagged and downvoted) more than someone who posts a sensational title as-is.
- julianz 15y agoHN with all the TechCrunch bullshit edited out is much better. I've been skipping any TC link for a while now and it's a big improvement.
- angrycoder 15y agoIt's not ignorance, they know full well what they are doing, generating traffic for their site.
- Confusion 15y agoHanlon's razor[1]. They may very well believe that what they are writing is true. Most people don't engage in dishonesty easily, but they are quick to fool themselves into believing they aren't being dishonest. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlons_razor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlons_razor
- angrycoder 15y agoAngrycoder's razor: most people are assholes and will do anything to make a buck.
- delta1 15y agoIt appears you are missing an apostrophe, I think I found it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor
- Confusion 15y agoThanks. It's weird though: I'm sure I copied the url and didn't edit it.
- JonnieCache 15y agoIt's part of the HN comment-formatting parser. It often seems to happen with wikipedia URLs in particular, most sites just take apostrophes and such out. The solution as shown by delta1 is to escape it.
- aidenn0 15y agoHanlon's Razor really should only be applied when you don't have other evidence. In the case of tech crunch, I'm fairly well convinced that they will take any news event in the most sensationalist light possible, regardless of their knowledge of the facts.
- njharman 15y ago> ignorant people Aren't the ones writing "headlines". They are the one's reading and believing "headlines" without understanding.
- JoachimSchipper 15y agoThe media may suck, but I remember cperciva saying that tarsnap signups actually increased after a security bug (http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2011-01-18-tarsnap-critical-security-bug.html http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2011-01-18-tarsnap-critical-...) - prospective customers were impressed by his response. In fact, my opinion of KeePass is higher after this incident ("seem to be properly paranoid") than before ("who?").
- teoruiz 15y agoNot to be anal here, but the original article is about LastPass[0] as opposed to KeePass[1], which is another password manager (NB: KeePass is locally hosted). [0] http://lastpass.com/ http://lastpass.com/ [1] http://keepass.info/ http://keepass.info/
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