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It's not flippant, read through the author's history: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/index.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/index.html This is a s
by cle 6y ago
It's not flippant, read through the author's history: https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/index.html https://lapcatsoftware.com/articles/index.html
This is a serious stance of his, with a lot of serious data and arguments to back it up, from a serious engineer who has written an impressive list of Mac software both for Apple and for Apple's customers.
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- rbrtl 6y agoYou did use the word serious enough to make it compelling. But the author’s biography doesn’t mean that his comment wasn’t flippant. He’s proved that an well-behaved, codesigned app can list file metadata about files in restricted directories. He hasn’t proven the sandbox compromised. You claim he has so much serious evidence, link us there. Don’t just string adjectives together. I have great respect for Jeff, but he is one of the more outspoken complainant Apple devs. At least he has a better basis for his commentary than DHH.
- saagarjha 6y agoA well behaved, codesigned app being able to list metadata about files in restricted directories is a sandbox compromise. In what viewpoint is it not?
- rbrtl 6y agoAs pointed out by the most voted top level comment it's a kernel issue.
- Wowfunhappy 6y agoThat doesn't mean it's not an issue. I would like Apple to not roll out BS prompts that make my life more difficult until those prompts are actually capable of protecting some of the most sensitive data on my machine.
- saagarjha 6y agoA kernel issue where it fails to adequately enforce the sandbox?
- rbrtl 6y agowhatever man. you had a good go at me the other day. you're right I'm wrong, and HN is no longer the place for me
- saagarjha 6y agoDid I? The only other interaction I had with you recently that I can find is a discussion about Apple's security policies, which seemed fairly reasonable to me.
- zepto 6y agoThe biggest issue with the author is that he complains both about the controlling/locked down nature of Apple’s platforms and about any bugs that show up in that system. I.e. His goal is to criticize Apple no matter what they do, because he dislikes the fact that they are no longer producing the kind of open system he prefers.
- saagarjha 6y agoI think the angle he has is “Apple should remove these protections because they can’t implement them correctly”.
- zepto 6y agoYeah, which doesn’t seem reasonable, especially when mixed in with a bunch of assumptions about ill intent. There are an enormous number of protections and a small number of issues, which do eventually get fixed, and of course the threats are undeniable. However you are right that Apple is notoriously had at communicating about bugs.