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I use Ubuntu which mostly works in these regards. When I first switched from Mac to Linux on a MBP, which has spotty Bluetooth support, the solution was pretty

by cle 6y ago

I use Ubuntu which mostly works in these regards. When I first switched from Mac to Linux on a MBP, which has spotty Bluetooth support, the solution was pretty easy--I bought a low-profile USB Bluetooth adapter with strong Linux compatibility, plugged it in, and never thought about it again. So IME it's not really a big deal.

CarelessExpert 6y ago
> So IME it's not really a big deal. Until you need that USB port back...
- cle 6y ago
  Haven't needed it, but I do recognize that may not be the case for everyone, hence my use of "IME". I've since switched away from Mac hardware and don't have this problem anymore, along with a myriad of other problems that Apple created for me (I can actually upgrade my RAM to be >16 GB, I don't need to carry around a bag of dongles, etc.).
  - whynotminot 6y ago
    The whole "have to carry around a bag of dongles" thing to me has always been so disingenuous. I'm kind of convinced that anyone who says it has never actually used one of the recent MacBooks as a daily driver. You throw one of those little "7 in 1" USB-C hubs in your bag. That's it. That's all you need.
    - cle 6y ago
      You're right, I haven't used a recent MBP. Last one I used wasn't USB-C, so I carried around HDMI, Ethernet, DisplayPort, and USB-C adapters. Not sure why you would consider that to be disingenuous, I'm merely sharing my personal experience.
      - whynotminot 6y ago
        Sorry if I came across as a little aggro--I'm definitely projecting the typical anti-Mac person onto you. It's generally step one of the hate on the MacBook playbook. "Psssht if you buy a MacBook you're living the dongle life." And it's just not been the case for me with the recent MacBook Pros. Like your experience, with past laptops I've used I've always had to carry around different adapters, regardless of whether the machine was Windows or Mac. No matter how many ports the vendor tries to shoe-horn into the laptop, they can never quite get them all in there, and so you end up with a dongle or series of dongles. With the MacBook implementation of USB-C, I carry one small USB-C hub that gives me pretty much everything from ethernet to microSD. The infamous "dongle book pro" actually has made my life less dongle-y. And that's where I see the whole "bag of dongles" as a disingenuous line of attack from people who don't actually use the machines for their real lives. In practice, it's the least dongle-y laptop I've ever used. (thanks for coming to my ted talk)

by cle 6y ago

CarelessExpert 6y ago

> So IME it's not really a big deal. Until you need that USB port back...

cle 6y ago
Haven't needed it, but I do recognize that may not be the case for everyone, hence my use of "IME". I've since switched away from Mac hardware and don't have this problem anymore, along with a myriad of other problems that Apple created for me (I can actually upgrade my RAM to be >16 GB, I don't need to carry around a bag of dongles, etc.).
- whynotminot 6y ago
  The whole "have to carry around a bag of dongles" thing to me has always been so disingenuous. I'm kind of convinced that anyone who says it has never actually used one of the recent MacBooks as a daily driver. You throw one of those little "7 in 1" USB-C hubs in your bag. That's it. That's all you need.
  - cle 6y ago
    You're right, I haven't used a recent MBP. Last one I used wasn't USB-C, so I carried around HDMI, Ethernet, DisplayPort, and USB-C adapters. Not sure why you would consider that to be disingenuous, I'm merely sharing my personal experience.
    - whynotminot 6y ago
      Sorry if I came across as a little aggro--I'm definitely projecting the typical anti-Mac person onto you. It's generally step one of the hate on the MacBook playbook. "Psssht if you buy a MacBook you're living the dongle life." And it's just not been the case for me with the recent MacBook Pros. Like your experience, with past laptops I've used I've always had to carry around different adapters, regardless of whether the machine was Windows or Mac. No matter how many ports the vendor tries to shoe-horn into the laptop, they can never quite get them all in there, and so you end up with a dongle or series of dongles. With the MacBook implementation of USB-C, I carry one small USB-C hub that gives me pretty much everything from ethernet to microSD. The infamous "dongle book pro" actually has made my life less dongle-y. And that's where I see the whole "bag of dongles" as a disingenuous line of attack from people who don't actually use the machines for their real lives. In practice, it's the least dongle-y laptop I've ever used. (thanks for coming to my ted talk)