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> Why is Windows a nightmare? I use Windows 10 on a PC I built and it's fine. Buy any consumer machine with Windows 10 and it comes with so much pre-loaded doo

> Why is Windows a nightmare? I use Windows 10 on a PC I built and it's fine. Buy any consumer machine with Windows 10 and it comes with so much pre-loaded doodoo, that it takes a couple hours to purge it down to the basics. In fact, so much so, that there are a myriad of scripts to help do this [0]. 0 https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10 https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10

ChrisSD 6y ago
Or you can just use the "Reset PC” feature and disable "Restore preinstalled apps" to reinstall the OS without the OEM bloat.
- vetinari 6y ago
  Nowadays, windows comes with bloat that is first-party (all the xbox stuff, etc).
free2OSS 6y ago
I unfortunately agree, but windows makes it extremely easy to wipe it and start over in 1 click. I own 2 windows 10 laptops, I only had to click the button 2 times in my life. It's like windows realized hardware companies were going to do this and wanted to make it easy to defeat them.
- black_puppydog 6y ago
  So I haven't tried this lately, but the last time I did, resetting windows this way did reset it... to the bloated crapware fest that the vendor had delivered it as. Did that change?
  - free2OSS 6y ago
    I got my laptop in 2015, it's been clean of crapware since. It's also blazing fast. These modern computers are incredible. Not sure why I'd ever upgrade.
  - easton 6y ago
    They now have a box you can check marked "Remove pre-installed software" that gives you a clean Windows image.
vbezhenar 6y ago
What's good about modern Windows, after it activated it binds to hardware. So you need to run it once connected to the Internet, ensure that it's activated. Then download Windows ISO from microsoft.com and reinstall it. It'll just work. Another good thing about modern Windows is that it downloads all the necessary drivers after the first boot and Internet connection. Gamers might want to install latest GPU drivers, but that's not necessary for most people. And those drivers usually do not come with bloatware. At least that was my experience with few computers. Reinstalling takes 3-5 minutes and downloading drivers takes 5-10 minutes depending on hardware and connection speed. Definitely faster than couple of hours. The only thing that needed to be uninstalled is ads from Microsoft, but that's another 5 minutes: just navigate Settings/Apps and uninstall those unwanted games. They do not reappear in my experience.

ChrisSD 6y ago

Or you can just use the "Reset PC” feature and disable "Restore preinstalled apps" to reinstall the OS without the OEM bloat.

vetinari 6y ago
Nowadays, windows comes with bloat that is first-party (all the xbox stuff, etc).

free2OSS 6y ago

I unfortunately agree, but windows makes it extremely easy to wipe it and start over in 1 click. I own 2 windows 10 laptops, I only had to click the button 2 times in my life. It's like windows realized hardware companies were going to do this and wanted to make it easy to defeat them.

black_puppydog 6y ago
So I haven't tried this lately, but the last time I did, resetting windows this way did reset it... to the bloated crapware fest that the vendor had delivered it as. Did that change?
- free2OSS 6y ago
  I got my laptop in 2015, it's been clean of crapware since. It's also blazing fast. These modern computers are incredible. Not sure why I'd ever upgrade.
- easton 6y ago
  They now have a box you can check marked "Remove pre-installed software" that gives you a clean Windows image.

vbezhenar 6y ago

What's good about modern Windows, after it activated it binds to hardware. So you need to run it once connected to the Internet, ensure that it's activated. Then download Windows ISO from microsoft.com and reinstall it. It'll just work. Another good thing about modern Windows is that it downloads all the necessary drivers after the first boot and Internet connection. Gamers might want to install latest GPU drivers, but that's not necessary for most people. And those drivers usually do not come with bloatware. At least that was my experience with few computers. Reinstalling takes 3-5 minutes and downloading drivers takes 5-10 minutes depending on hardware and connection speed. Definitely faster than couple of hours. The only thing that needed to be uninstalled is ads from Microsoft, but that's another 5 minutes: just navigate Settings/Apps and uninstall those unwanted games. They do not reappear in my experience.