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As a way of breaking this cycle, I've recently been considering going to bed earlier (e.g. 9-10pm), and then getting up at 5-6am, BUT with the proviso I can do

As a way of breaking this cycle, I've recently been considering going to bed earlier (e.g. 9-10pm), and then getting up at 5-6am, BUT with the proviso I can do whatever I want between 5 and 8, with no pressure to be productive (e.g. binge on Netflix for 3 hours). I just need to convince my wife to do the same :) Has anyone tried something like this?

InitialLastName 6y ago
I do this (allocate more unproductive time in the mornings) and it's great. I tend to wake up at about 7 and wake up slowly, browse the news and/or play a game until I start working at about 10. I've operated that way since I was a kid (with some exceptions), and find that every day is much better when the mornings contain no stress.
draw_down 6y ago
I love the morning, it’s the best time of day. I naturally tend to wake up quite early and have my whole life. However this is the time when I most prefer to do chores. It feels nice doing them in the morning, where later in the day I tend not to have the energy.
Swizec 6y ago
I made that switch earlier this year. Huge boost in productivity and happiness. The tricky part is making sure you don’t pick up the phone before 10am. Too easy to wander over to HN and write about how much this sleep schedule switch helped. For me mornings are great for deep work (usually) because my mind isn’t full of other people’s crap yet.
55555 6y ago
That sounds good because I think most people are more likely to "waste their time" at night rather than as soon as they get out of bed in the morning. You just don't get up and immediately start eating cake and watching Netflix.
kiliantics 6y ago
I am trying the opposite. Wake up at 7, and focus exclusively on productive work until around noon, then if I am successful (I wasn't today), I allow the rest of the day to be guilt-free whatever I choose to do.
pjmorris 6y ago
That's sort of how our schedule falls out anyway, bed around 10, rise around 6, first meetings don't kick in until 9. I have a variety of side projects, chores, and just plain entertainments that go in to that 7-9 slot, chosen based on what I'd most like, or need, to do. Sometimes I just sleep in a little extra. One day I'll commute again, I'm sure, but I am really enjoying this instead.
toyg 6y ago
Done it for a while and was pretty cool, but killed any wish to work the rest of the day.
prawn 6y ago
Tried this once. Wife noticed me get up and decided to start her day earlier. Youngest child heard me and ended up on my lap while I was trying to work. I went back to my usual staying up until 2am or so. Virtually zero chance of getting disrupted then.

InitialLastName 6y ago

I do this (allocate more unproductive time in the mornings) and it's great. I tend to wake up at about 7 and wake up slowly, browse the news and/or play a game until I start working at about 10. I've operated that way since I was a kid (with some exceptions), and find that every day is much better when the mornings contain no stress.

draw_down 6y ago

I love the morning, it’s the best time of day. I naturally tend to wake up quite early and have my whole life. However this is the time when I most prefer to do chores. It feels nice doing them in the morning, where later in the day I tend not to have the energy.

Swizec 6y ago

I made that switch earlier this year. Huge boost in productivity and happiness. The tricky part is making sure you don’t pick up the phone before 10am. Too easy to wander over to HN and write about how much this sleep schedule switch helped. For me mornings are great for deep work (usually) because my mind isn’t full of other people’s crap yet.

55555 6y ago

That sounds good because I think most people are more likely to "waste their time" at night rather than as soon as they get out of bed in the morning. You just don't get up and immediately start eating cake and watching Netflix.

kiliantics 6y ago

I am trying the opposite. Wake up at 7, and focus exclusively on productive work until around noon, then if I am successful (I wasn't today), I allow the rest of the day to be guilt-free whatever I choose to do.

pjmorris 6y ago

That's sort of how our schedule falls out anyway, bed around 10, rise around 6, first meetings don't kick in until 9. I have a variety of side projects, chores, and just plain entertainments that go in to that 7-9 slot, chosen based on what I'd most like, or need, to do. Sometimes I just sleep in a little extra. One day I'll commute again, I'm sure, but I am really enjoying this instead.

toyg 6y ago

Done it for a while and was pretty cool, but killed any wish to work the rest of the day.

prawn 6y ago

Tried this once. Wife noticed me get up and decided to start her day earlier. Youngest child heard me and ended up on my lap while I was trying to work. I went back to my usual staying up until 2am or so. Virtually zero chance of getting disrupted then.